No beards for J/S due to oxygen degradation
09-16-2023, 03:32 PM
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09-17-2023, 11:09 AM
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Theres a group at AA pushing to change appearance policy to allow short and neatly trimmed beards. This is old school managment's attempt to push this idea further away, not realizing that FA's have beards and they have to utilize the JS oxygen in the flight deck during pilot out of flight deck protocols.
That’s been happening, since, forever…….
09-17-2023, 11:44 AM
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And let's be real, the public has different expectations for FAs and pilots.
09-17-2023, 12:07 PM
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It is crazy that male FAs can have beards, earrings, crazy hair, tattoos, etc, but it is unprofessional for pilots to do the same. If anything, they should be held to a higher standard, because they deal with the customers directly. There's plenty of executives with beards, including Vasu.
Pilots are held to a high standard, and it's an important standard to uphold. I would love to have a beard, but I knew when I started in this profession that I was giving up the ability to have one during my working days.
09-17-2023, 12:54 PM
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I have to disagree, personally. We are in a safety-oriented position (so are FA's to some extent, but pax lives are in our hands, not the FA's) and passengers will judge us on our appearance, even if it really has little correlation to the skill or safety of a pilot. Passengers don't get to see us working up front, so they will judge based on what they can see. First impressions are important, and pulling up to the gate looking clean and professional is key to putting passengers at ease.
Pilots are held to a high standard, and it's an important standard to uphold. I would love to have a beard, but I knew when I started in this profession that I was giving up the ability to have one during my working days.
Pilots are held to a high standard, and it's an important standard to uphold. I would love to have a beard, but I knew when I started in this profession that I was giving up the ability to have one during my working days.
09-17-2023, 12:59 PM
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I think pilots tend to overestimate how much customers care about this sort of thing. And even when they do care, the “well Hawaiian allows beards for their pilots so I’m gonna fly clean-shaven American to Kona!” rapidly becomes “welp Hawaiian is $0.99 cheaper so Ima choose that when I sort by price.”
09-17-2023, 01:03 PM
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When you're commuting/DH'ing and the passengers treat you like/ask if you're an FA, when you're in the cabin, 'nuff said.
When you're standing out front and people treat you like a skycap, 'nuff said...
09-17-2023, 02:47 PM
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I have to disagree, personally. We are in a safety-oriented position (so are FA's to some extent, but pax lives are in our hands, not the FA's) and passengers will judge us on our appearance, even if it really has little correlation to the skill or safety of a pilot. Passengers don't get to see us working up front, so they will judge based on what they can see. First impressions are important, and pulling up to the gate looking clean and professional is key to putting passengers at ease.
Pilots are held to a high standard, and it's an important standard to uphold. I would love to have a beard, but I knew when I started in this profession that I was giving up the ability to have one during my working days.
Pilots are held to a high standard, and it's an important standard to uphold. I would love to have a beard, but I knew when I started in this profession that I was giving up the ability to have one during my working days.
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