Originally Posted by JohnBurke

The original poster stated two words: "It passed." That's not a gloat. That's a statement of fact.

The pilot body of any operator is not beholden to the industry, but to themselves. Whether they raised your bar is irrelevant. It's not about the industry. It's not the industry's contract. The industry doesn't get paid by the contract, doesn't work for the operator, doesn't have a leg to stand on. If others want something in their contract, it's up to them to negotiate.

It gets tiresome to see idiotic dismissive commentary here suggesting that a tentative agreement or new contract is somehow a failure because it didn't top everyone else's. Recently this kind of stupidity was posted about Amerijet's contract; it didn't increase their wages above everyone else, but it did make a substantial change, and the only thing that counts is that the pilots who are under that contract, vote on it. Those who don't get to vote (because they're neither employed by, nor a part of that operation) are spitting in the wind.

Whether a contract "beats" anyone else's is irrelevant. Whether the pilots who vote in that contract agree with it, and approve it, is the only thing relevant.

Originally Posted by Gone Flying

UA and DL both gets 3 weeks starting year 5, and it’s my understanding that’s where AA starts

Originally Posted by Gone Flying

UA and DL both gets 3 weeks starting year 5, and it’s my understanding that’s where AA starts

but UA gets 5 weeks year 11-24 and 6 weeks year 25+. I thought AA didn’t get their 5th week til like year 19?

i’m not sure what AA’s vacation is but here is DLs and UAs. Would someone mind posing AAs? I just assumed UA led the industry in this matter
UA 4:15/day starting in 2025
1-4 2 weeks
5-10 3 weeks
11-24 5 weeks
25+ 6 weeks

DL 4:35/ day starting in 2025
1-4 2 weeks
5-10 3 weeks
11-15 4 weeks
16+ 5 weeks.

Originally Posted by CRJCapitan

I believe their company 401k contribution stops once they max out the 401k for the year, as opposed to it rolling over into your paycheck.

Originally Posted by FlyPurdue

Y

if our AIP passes, that money can also go into a MBCBP.

Originally Posted by PRS Guitars

Incorrect. AA gets 3 weeks starting year 1. Personally, I was happy to have that front loaded extra week.

Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy

It's going to take quite a while to set it up. But feel free to copy and paste from DALPA. Again.

Originally Posted by desertFlyer2015

I believe the failed TUMI TA actually had that first but nice try

Originally Posted by desertFlyer2015

I believe the failed TUMI TA actually had that first but nice try