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Old 08-14-2023, 05:48 AM
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Its a more efficient system.
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Old 08-14-2023, 05:51 AM
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nobody forced anyone to do anything. The first LOA was DOA that thing was a giant turd that’s why it never got past the board or even through the process. TA1.0 would have passed fairly easily and then United came along and required TA2.0.

oh…and Delta.

Don’t break your arm patting yourself on the back you and your “no” army had little to do with where we are now. Pattern bargaining in real time is why we are here not your constant spoiled brat complaining.
It took a huge Facebook campaign with sound-offs to get the BOD to ignore the few senior bubbas (which is a huge feat because the BOD are very afraid of them and usually bend to their will) who were screaming to get this thing passed as soon as possible. The proof of that comes from all the treads on The Line trying to call out the "Facebook crowd" for ruining it.

As far as TA 1.0, there were people saying it was still industry leading even after United's deal came out (including YOU). Again it was up to people like me to pressure the board to go back to the table. Even though they failed at most everything, 2.0 is an improvement over 1.0. Again, YOU'RE WELCOME.

Stop trying to rewrite history.
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Old 08-14-2023, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ImSoSuss
It took a huge Facebook campaign with sound-offs to get the BOD to ignore the few senior bubbas (which is a huge feat because the BOD are very afraid of them and usually bend to their will) who were screaming to get this thing passed as soon as possible. The proof of that comes from all the treads on The Line trying to call out the "Facebook crowd" for ruining it.

As far as TA 1.0, there were people saying it was still industry leading even after United's deal came out (including YOU). Again it was up to people like me to pressure the board to go back to the table. Even though they failed at most everything, 2.0 is an improvement over 1.0. Again, YOU'RE WELCOME.

Stop trying to rewrite history.
Haha. Delusions of grandeur….another not so flattering trait of this country’s younger generation. “People like me” that’s rich!!!
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Haha. Delusions of grandeur….another not so flattering trait of this country’s younger generation. “People like me” that’s rich!!!
People like you desperately trying to rewrite history because you realize the TAs you supported in the past and tried to shame others for not supporting were vastly inferior products. Now that the shame is on you since proven wrong you are trying to rewrite history. It's people like you in this pilot group that makes it easier to understand how this contract got so bad in the first place. Thank god for the huge infusion of new people with different perspectives to pressure the BOD on not capitulating every-time the company says no.
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It took a huge Facebook campaign with sound-offs to get the BOD to ignore the few senior bubbas (which is a huge feat because the BOD are very afraid of them and usually bend to their will) who were screaming to get this thing passed as soon as possible. The proof of that comes from all the treads on The Line trying to call out the "Facebook crowd" for ruining it.

As far as TA 1.0, there were people saying it was still industry leading even after United's deal came out (including YOU). Again it was up to people like me to pressure the board to go back to the table. Even though they failed at most everything, 2.0 is an improvement over 1.0. Again, YOU'RE WELCOME.

Stop trying to rewrite history.
Will you put “huge Facebook campaign” on your resume? 😂
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Old 08-14-2023, 06:15 AM
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Pattern bargaining in real time is why we are here not your constant spoiled brat complaining.
"Pattern bargaining" is not what APA has delivered in this TA. It's an embarrassing, weak failure to raise the bar.

You reaped the rewards of pattern bargaining, but contributed nothing. Pathetic.

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Will you put “huge Facebook campaign” on your resume? 😂
You're welcome.
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Old 08-14-2023, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy
"Pattern bargaining" is not what APA has delivered in this TA. It's an embarrassing, weak failure to raise the bar.

You reaped the rewards of pattern bargaining, but contributed nothing. Pathetic.
Seriously, go be a Dick somewhere else. You really have nothing better to do then to come on here and ***** about another airline?
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Seriously, go be a Dick somewhere else. You really have nothing better to do then to come on here and ***** about another airline?
He's not the one wrong here, you and Reddy are.
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Originally Posted by ImSoSuss
People like you desperately trying to rewrite history because you realize the TAs you supported in the past and tried to shame others for not supporting were vastly inferior products. Now that the shame is on you since proven wrong you are trying to rewrite history. It's people like you in this pilot group that makes it easier to understand how this contract got so bad in the first place. Thank god for the huge infusion of new people with different perspectives to pressure the BOD on not capitulating every-time the company says no.
i did not support the first AIP it was an insult. TA1.0 I was in support of and then the rules changed with United’s AIP. As for the contract we currently work under, I was a big fat no to that because we gave away everything good we had at US Airways.

you can continue to make all the assumptions you want to fit your narrative but the fact is you’re wrong!!
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