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07-28-2023, 06:40 PM
#153
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- Narrowbody Reserve block minimum size must be set to three days for bidding in all months, except for international statuses in bases for which there is also a domestic status for the same fleet (DFW/320/I, ORD/737/I, LGA/737/I).
I’m not familiar with why this is a contract gain as I’m generally new to reading through the AA TA. Can someone explain, thanks boys.
Also, when is APA going to stop riding the coattails of DALPA?
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07-28-2023, 06:49 PM
#154
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except in this case, APA would have had to do almost no lifting whatsoever to beat DALPA's widebody rates by one penny to trigger their snap-up. Even with a couple of mulligans.
07-28-2023, 07:28 PM
#155
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I've already been brainwashed to become accustomed to working longer and harder for the same pay
Im ready to get the money. I dont care how long i work. the 13hr days i currently put in, really aint that bad
I just wanna have a paycheck that at least shows that i worked a 13hr day.
thats no shade towards my fellow mil bro's and bro'ettes, im just ready to get paid for working a 13hr day.
Im ready to get the money. I dont care how long i work. the 13hr days i currently put in, really aint that bad
I just wanna have a paycheck that at least shows that i worked a 13hr day.
thats no shade towards my fellow mil bro's and bro'ettes, im just ready to get paid for working a 13hr day.
07-28-2023, 10:06 PM
#156
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Well that's way off. UAL contract 2000 is and was still better then anything put out by anybody. Then Sept 11 happened. Delta was on verge of liquidation in 2008. They got the first good contract around 2010. Since then pretty good run, but nowhere near 23 years. Also Alaska did as much heavy lifting as Delta on this round.
07-29-2023, 04:31 AM
#157
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This^^. A Yes vote isn’t an endorsement of the TA, but a vote of no confidence in the APA’s ability to negotiate more or navigate mediation. It also acknowledges that the marginal gains (if any) from a No vote would far be out paced by the lost opportunity costs of a No vote. Ready for spears to be thrown my way…
.....again, just by using your logic here.
07-29-2023, 04:39 AM
#158
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3K in NYC. ATL could be argued is bigger because of the instructor cadre there which I believe is around 800 pilots.
07-29-2023, 05:10 AM
#159
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Crew resources includes a SLI (seniority list instructor) planning factor in their requirements. Also, somewhere between a quarter and a third of the sim instructor cadre is flying in any given month (this summer is unique), the rest are in the training center. Plus they don’t all fly out of ATL when they do. So, even if…. maybe a little bigger, but not a ton.
07-29-2023, 06:06 AM
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If you're going by this logic then a yes vote endorses the Union's continued disdain of junior pilots in favor for a few senior short tiimers they're afraid of. Every sound off and every request from the bottom half of the senority list was ignored. I cannot in good conscious support that nor this union with a yes vote.
.....again, just by using your logic here.
.....again, just by using your logic here.
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