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Old 07-15-2023, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ACEssXfer
I don’t disagree with your premise.

What I do disagree with is that APA was ready for this. Adaptability is a 4 letter works for APA.
Yea, the only scary part is the rumor Ed made it personal by losing his temper. Once it’s personal it’s very hard to recover from.
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Old 07-15-2023, 07:02 PM
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Well maybe try to reread it, with an additional ounce of humility.
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Old 07-15-2023, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by OpieTaylor
Yea, the only scary part is the rumor Ed made it personal by losing his temper. Once it’s personal it’s very hard to recover from.
Do we any real evidence or knowledge of that? All I saw was some person posted a random anonymous text message saying that was the case lol
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Old 07-15-2023, 07:14 PM
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So where does this put the vote % @ AAL? 70/30 to pass the approved UPA next month?
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Old 07-15-2023, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
You said, rather loudly, "[DL] CURRENTLY DON’T HAVE FEILD STANBY." In the context of 'negotiating' for/against some form of Field Standby, I think it's relevant DL included that with 3:00 of Pay. Especially since that exactly what UA just matched. Wasn't trying to rub and noses in anything, just adding the greater context.
To be completely accurate, the VAS at DAL pays a minimum of 8:15. 3 hours is pay/no credit, which goes over a reserve guarantee, and 5:15 pay/credit. If you sit and do nothing, you get 8:15 at a minimum.

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Old 07-15-2023, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Montcalm
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Maybe a little, but I am not upset our TA doesn’t 1up Delta, upset because it is less than what we want for ourselves regardless of Delta.

Everyone wants better QOL at AA, some are willing to vote no to try and improve it, and some are willing to vote yes and continue to complain about QOL.

It seemed you have no actual goal except 1uping another carrier which sounds dumb and prideful to me especially since that has already happened last year.
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Old 07-15-2023, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by CRJCapitan
Do we any real evidence or knowledge of that? All I saw was some person posted a random anonymous text message saying that was the case lol
I buy it at face value, just hearing him on these town halls. He constantly interrupts other speakers to moan about something. Seems like a loose cannon.
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Old 07-15-2023, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by T773ER
Along with higher monthly sick accrual rates, long duty day rigs, LC hours, deadhead, and crew meals just to name a few I’m sure there’s more.

If UA ratifies the soon to be TA, and AA ratifies this TA, than AA will no doubt have the weakest contract of the majors for the next 4 years if not longer. It’s time to do better.
Sorry, you didn’t know that we have crew meals already at AA?
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Old 07-16-2023, 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by El Peso
Sorry, you didn’t know that we have crew meals already at AA?
United has multiple options chose from.
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Old 07-16-2023, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by El Peso
Sorry, you didn’t know that we have crew meals already at AA?
I did know, can you pre select your meal days in advance from over a dozen options? And I’ll admit, that’s not a huge sticking point but it’s just one of many areas that the AA AIP is lagging in.
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