Vote NO. Why:
07-15-2023, 05:47 PM
#141
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From APA: "In response to today’s announcement that United Airlines has reached an agreement in principle with its pilots for a new collective bargaining agreement, your APA Board of Directors, National Officers, and key committees are carefully reviewing the United AIP and assessing its implications for our own Tentative Agreement.
American Airlines CEO Robert Isom has pledged to match our industry peers in the current bargaining environment. In the coming days, your union leadership will endeavor to determine whether Mr. Isom plans to follows through on that pledge in light of this latest development.
As APA performs its due diligence and formulates next steps, we encourage you to likewise review the details of the United pilots’ AIP.
Thank you for your continued engagement and support. We will update you as appropriate."
American Airlines CEO Robert Isom has pledged to match our industry peers in the current bargaining environment. In the coming days, your union leadership will endeavor to determine whether Mr. Isom plans to follows through on that pledge in light of this latest development.
As APA performs its due diligence and formulates next steps, we encourage you to likewise review the details of the United pilots’ AIP.
Thank you for your continued engagement and support. We will update you as appropriate."
Stay far away from ALPA. We don't want you.
07-15-2023, 05:57 PM
#142
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Utterly shameful, embarrassing, and sets a bad precedent.
07-15-2023, 06:07 PM
#143
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I called those events pattern barging.
07-15-2023, 06:12 PM
#144
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Well in May of 2022 United announced a TA that failed and was worth less then the one they now have. Since that time AA Union rejected a better TA than the one United rejected and Delta secured an even better yet TA, AA announced a better TA than the one they rejected and now United has a better TA than the one they rejected last year.
I called those events pattern barging.
I called those events pattern barging.
I'm absolutely thrilled about the prospect of AAPA swooping in to salvage this situation and generously sprinkling a few more dollars to keep the "yes" voters obediently in line. It's truly a masterclass in sarcasm.
07-15-2023, 06:29 PM
#145
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Of course, how convenient that we completely overlooked leveraging anything Delta negotiated, except for pay rates.
I'm absolutely thrilled about the prospect of AAPA swooping in to salvage this situation and generously sprinkling a few more dollars to keep the "yes" voters obediently in line. It's truly a masterclass in sarcasm.
I'm absolutely thrilled about the prospect of AAPA swooping in to salvage this situation and generously sprinkling a few more dollars to keep the "yes" voters obediently in line. It's truly a masterclass in sarcasm.
Your preferred option is Delta mgmt and goes low enough to secure a failed TA after watching two others fail, and we get to where we’re are now with more pride in ourselves by 1Uping each other to the exact same same spot vs an exit and party up.
Do you enjoy vacations less if your wife gave you driving instructions vs navigating yourself while driving? Or do you enjoy them based on the reality of where you are? Is it important to tell her you don’t need instructions?
Is your pride that high? How we got here is more important than getting here?
07-15-2023, 06:42 PM
#147
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I don't think there can be a vote. APA and management need to come together and add something that will keep this alive. I have a reasonable amount of faith APA will pursue this and will put pressure on management to do so given we've already received multiple emails within hours of the UA AIP.
07-15-2023, 06:42 PM
#148
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So your mad Delta went high enough to secure a TA without a failed vote and break a loop of 1Up for others to party up too because it isn’t enough compensation and benefits or just harms your personal pride?
Your preferred option is Delta mgmt and goes low enough to secure a failed TA after watching two others fail, and we get to where we’re are now with more pride in ourselves by 1Uping each other to the exact same same spot vs an exit and party up.
Do you enjoy vacations less if your wife gave you driving instructions vs navigating yourself while driving? Or do you enjoy them based on the reality of where you are? Is it important to tell her you don’t need instructions?
Is your pride that high? How we got here is more important than getting here?
Your preferred option is Delta mgmt and goes low enough to secure a failed TA after watching two others fail, and we get to where we’re are now with more pride in ourselves by 1Uping each other to the exact same same spot vs an exit and party up.
Do you enjoy vacations less if your wife gave you driving instructions vs navigating yourself while driving? Or do you enjoy them based on the reality of where you are? Is it important to tell her you don’t need instructions?
Is your pride that high? How we got here is more important than getting here?
Second, you make no sense. I quite literally wrote the opposite of what you’re inferring.
07-15-2023, 06:44 PM
#149
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I don't think there can be a vote. APA and management need to come together and add something that will keep this alive. I have a reasonable amount of faith APA will pursue this and will put pressure on management to do so given we've already received multiple emails within hours of the UA AIP.
What I do disagree with is that APA was ready for this. Adaptability is a 4 letter works for APA.
07-15-2023, 06:54 PM
#150
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