ImSoSuss

You're slow on the uptake aren't ya? It is just one of many significant QOL gains they made on their contract. It is proof that if a Union is strong enough and doesn't run at the first "we asked and they said no" then a major change could have been made. For AA that could have been improved sick accrual (UA got that too), more days off for reserve (UA got that too), improved trip trading and restrictions on company lock-downs (I would of equated this major gain to UA's FSB removal) .

Again, for you slow people in the back.

Montcalm

My sincere apologies for assuming you were part of AAL. You are out of touch to such a degree that it caused quite a bit of confusion. I must admit.

At least it's oddly comforting to know that some of you found a way to exist in realms beyond ours.

LAXtoDEN

Yeah sorry I’m a little slow, did they keep global reserve? (You should read up on that policy)

Would you call that a concession?

I’m a little slow, so you tell me.

TankerDriver

I'm pretty sure there are plenty of other reserve "wins" in UAL's AIP vs. ours. Again, reserve goes more senior at UAL and ALPA CARES ABOUT IT.

Here's a short summary:

Increased Reserve days off to 13 in a 30-day bid period, and 14 days off in a 31-day bid period; for months of Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr, May, Sep, Oct, and Nov.

Long Call Reserve
•Assignments made 1200-1400, 14-hour call out (1015-1400 for LCR Pilots)
•All other times 18-hour call out for a trip, 16-hour call out for a Short Call assignment
•Release on last day prior to HDO moved up to 0600

Short Call Reserve
•NEW - Short Call matrix will be published monthly
•NEW - Cap on assigned Short Calls for traditional Reserves (not on a VEC or VSC line) = 6 (prorated based on available days)
•NEW - Short Calls built after 1400 result in 1 hour of Add Pay
•Release on last day moved earlier to 1400

NEW - Premium Short Call
•Available for both Lineholders and Reserves to pick up
•Short Call will pay 5:15 of LPV and 5:15 Add Pay per day
•If no in base Pilot picks up the Premium Short Call the company may move the Short Call to another base as a Standby Reserve Trip

First day of reserve pre-10am incentives
•Pilot who picks up SC or FSB entitled to 1 hour of Add Pay
•VEC pilot assigned a SC entitled to 1 hour of Add Pay
A trip picked up or assigned entitled to 2 hours of Add Pay

There's 7 pages of reserve provisions... how much thought did APA put into our reserves?

El Peso

They made huge improvements to reserve because that’s what it took just to bring them up to standard. You know kinda how our TA is worth 8.3B but Deltas was only like 7.6B. We had to make up a lot more ground. I can’t tell if you’re purposely pretending not to understand this or you’re actually this dumb?

BTW I do think that United exceeding our pay and getting 2023 retro back to Jan will flip yes voters here to NO.

T773ER

Along with higher monthly sick accrual rates, long duty day rigs, LC hours, deadhead, and crew meals just to name a few I’m sure there’s more.

If UA ratifies the soon to be TA, and AA ratifies this TA, than AA will no doubt have the weakest contract of the majors for the next 4 years if not longer. It’s time to do better.

TankerDriver

From APA: "In response to today’s announcement that United Airlines has reached an agreement in principle with its pilots for a new collective bargaining agreement, your APA Board of Directors, National Officers, and key committees are carefully reviewing the United AIP and assessing its implications for our own Tentative Agreement.

American Airlines CEO Robert Isom has pledged to match our industry peers in the current bargaining environment. In the coming days, your union leadership will endeavor to determine whether Mr. Isom plans to follows through on that pledge in light of this latest development.

As APA performs its due diligence and formulates next steps, we encourage you to likewise review the details of the United pilots’ AIP.

Thank you for your continued engagement and support. We will update you as appropriate."

Montcalm

They're panicking. Can we get real about going ALPA now?

This is so embarrassing.

OpieTaylor

Not embarrassing, it’s pattern bargaining, it’s part of the process. What’s embarrassing is the amount of good ole boys who will lie back and think of England just to get through this.

AXNKAA

Almost as big of a “win” as getting 5:15 for being flown into your day off. We really got them there!