Commuting to Europe
04-28-2023, 01:03 PM
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04-28-2023, 01:05 PM
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In addition you probably can't drop off trips so easy when you are junior
04-28-2023, 01:06 PM
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In addition you probably can't drop off trips so easy when you are junior
04-28-2023, 02:09 PM
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So, let’s say in 4 or 5 years “in the house”. A guy starting now. He/she will have a great seniority in 4 years, right?
I think then makes life easier for European commuters (I wanna do that in 4/5 years as we also have UE citizenship - Netherlands).
With some good seniority I guess you can have a lot of days off and spend more time at home, specially if you choose a junior base like LGA, as you can be senior faster than any other base.
Let’s see what the future holds. Let’s also hope for a nice contract that can sort things out regarding the pilots QOL.
But it’s good to know there are many European commuters flying for AA. I didn’t know that.
I think then makes life easier for European commuters (I wanna do that in 4/5 years as we also have UE citizenship - Netherlands).
With some good seniority I guess you can have a lot of days off and spend more time at home, specially if you choose a junior base like LGA, as you can be senior faster than any other base.
Let’s see what the future holds. Let’s also hope for a nice contract that can sort things out regarding the pilots QOL.
But it’s good to know there are many European commuters flying for AA. I didn’t know that.
04-28-2023, 02:52 PM
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So, let’s say in 4 or 5 years “in the house”. A guy starting now. He/she will have a great seniority in 4 years, right?
I think then makes life easier for European commuters (I wanna do that in 4/5 years as we also have UE citizenship - Netherlands).
With some good seniority I guess you can have a lot of days off and spend more time at home, specially if you choose a junior base like LGA, as you can be senior faster than any other base.
Let’s see what the future holds. Let’s also hope for a nice contract that can sort things out regarding the pilots QOL.
But it’s good to know there are many European commuters flying for AA. I didn’t know that.
I think then makes life easier for European commuters (I wanna do that in 4/5 years as we also have UE citizenship - Netherlands).
With some good seniority I guess you can have a lot of days off and spend more time at home, specially if you choose a junior base like LGA, as you can be senior faster than any other base.
Let’s see what the future holds. Let’s also hope for a nice contract that can sort things out regarding the pilots QOL.
But it’s good to know there are many European commuters flying for AA. I didn’t know that.
04-28-2023, 07:31 PM
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So I'm NY based.. I can often get 10 days off in a row fairly easy.. if you can bid good trips you can fly 13 or 14 days at minimum line value. So if you stack all your trips together, 4/5 on, 1 off you might be able to get 12 days off somewhat regularly. Getting on your red-eye home might be difficult though as many of our trips come in late, 9pm to 1am. We have some long haul commuters though so there are some that do it.
04-28-2023, 10:28 PM
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I flew with a f/o in LAX on the 777 who commuted from southwest France. He was senior to me system wise and stayed as f/o to have the seniority to stack his trips and have over half the month off in a row. It’s not easy to do, but I see you have Oslo on your tagline so that would not be as bad. Hope you have connections to get rides back and forth because commuting without a jumpseat option is sketchy at best.
04-28-2023, 10:30 PM
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Again, depends on trip trading and planning your commute. I AirBnb'd my nightstays in NYC as I was bouncing around trips originating from LGA, JFK and EWR. I did end up spending a lot of money traveling between JFK and LGA as I stopped by B&H though ....
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04-29-2023, 03:01 AM
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I commuted from Europe for 2.5 years. As a reserve, you won’t spend much time at home if you commute, regardless if you commute to Europe or anywhere else. I was commuting to NYC at first and my commute was maybe only two hours longer than some guys in my crashpad who commuted from Washington state.
once I became a lineholder, I had a lot more flexibility. I really had to learn the trip trading tools and I am able to get my schedule down to condensed blocks with a lot of days off if I want to. There are many of us who commute from Europe. I moved to base a year ago but now I commute to Europe only during the summers. For reference, I am a narrowbody FO, less than 4 years at the company.
once I became a lineholder, I had a lot more flexibility. I really had to learn the trip trading tools and I am able to get my schedule down to condensed blocks with a lot of days off if I want to. There are many of us who commute from Europe. I moved to base a year ago but now I commute to Europe only during the summers. For reference, I am a narrowbody FO, less than 4 years at the company.
04-29-2023, 08:35 AM
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Unless you are working for FedEx or UPS you will make millions less over your career flying cargo versus for American.
I flew with a f/o in LAX on the 777 who commuted from southwest France. He was senior to me system wise and stayed as f/o to have the seniority to stack his trips and have over half the month off in a row. It’s not easy to do, but I see you have Oslo on your tagline so that would not be as bad. Hope you have connections to get rides back and forth because commuting without a jumpseat option is sketchy at best.
I flew with a f/o in LAX on the 777 who commuted from southwest France. He was senior to me system wise and stayed as f/o to have the seniority to stack his trips and have over half the month off in a row. It’s not easy to do, but I see you have Oslo on your tagline so that would not be as bad. Hope you have connections to get rides back and forth because commuting without a jumpseat option is sketchy at best.
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