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04-12-2023, 06:13 AM

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New hires to WB?

When do you guys speculate you’ll see new hires to WB and what base is it likely to happen at first?

04-12-2023, 06:40 AM

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Never, unless we get a bunch of 787s all at the same time by surprise

04-12-2023, 06:42 AM

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Never, unless we get a bunch of 787s all at the same time by surprise

Damn really? That’s surprising considering the other two are sending new hires to WBs. Why the different dynamic with AA? Especially with the number of retirees coming?

04-12-2023, 07:04 AM

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Damn really? That’s surprising considering the other two are sending new hires to WBs. Why the different dynamic with AA? Especially with the number of retirees coming?

Because WB reserve here doesn’t suck.

04-12-2023, 07:06 AM

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Because WB reserve here doesn’t suck.

Does it suck at Delta?

04-12-2023, 07:13 AM

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Damn really? That’s surprising considering the other two are sending new hires to WBs. Why the different dynamic with AA? Especially with the number of retirees coming?

AA has a small number of widebody aircraft. AAs network focuses on domestic flying for revenue generation, especially regional flying.

04-12-2023, 07:33 AM

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Does it suck at Delta?

Reserve it doesn’t suck at Delta. Specially now that we are going to have 18hr long calls.

04-12-2023, 08:08 AM

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Damn really? That’s surprising considering the other two are sending new hires to WBs. Why the different dynamic with AA? Especially with the number of retirees coming?

United has twice as many WB aircraft as AA. Another factor is the QOL on the domestic side at AA is not very good. Lots of reassignments, very little trading flexibility, and quite a few fatiguing pairings. Consequently the WB FO bid status is senior to narrow body CA in most bases.

But a new contract which fixes QOL issues on the domestic side plus additional 787 deliveries could change the dynamic considerably.

04-12-2023, 08:54 AM

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Damn really? That’s surprising considering the other two are sending new hires to WBs. Why the different dynamic with AA? Especially with the number of retirees coming?

It also has to do with the number of categories you can bid here vs Delta/United and seat locks. For instance we only have 4(737,320,777,787) not very long seat locks, Delta has 8(71,73,75ER,764,220,320,330,350) and they have 2 year seat locks with some * of getting out of them and United has 5 (320,73,75/76,777,787) but they also have way more WB than both AA and Delta. I'd be willing to bet if AA still had 330s, 75/76 and EMB190s we would be seeing quick upgrades and new hires to WB.