LEANING to leave AA for DAL
08-18-2024, 07:59 PM
#221
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Joined APC: Jul 2022
Posts: 390
Not sure if they answered your SC/LC question above:
At AAL - you can bid for a line or reserve. If bidding for reserve - you can bid for SC or LC. In most bid statuses/bases - SC is more junior than LC (but you'll see a lot of local senior pilots bidding SC because if living in base SC can be pretty sweet). So yes, if you're a junior commuter who's not senior enough to get LC, you can get stuck with SC for the month.
At AAL - you can bid for a line or reserve. If bidding for reserve - you can bid for SC or LC. In most bid statuses/bases - SC is more junior than LC (but you'll see a lot of local senior pilots bidding SC because if living in base SC can be pretty sweet). So yes, if you're a junior commuter who's not senior enough to get LC, you can get stuck with SC for the month.
08-19-2024, 01:58 AM
#222
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Joined APC: Sep 2022
Posts: 95
exactly. I’m going to DC 73 CA and August bottom 5 were all LC because there’s enough senior folks wanting SC. 6 from bottom was already a LH. Looking at Sept 3XP bottom 2 were SC then LC. LH is so junior in DCA 73 because RSV, (SC) is wanted by senior folks. It is a small base though. 75% are LH 25% RSV
base and equipment dependent obviously
08-26-2024, 08:36 AM
#223
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Joined APC: Jun 2019
Posts: 179
You might see that change and get forced back to reserve. September is the first month that the new reserve system where buckets and reserve days worked trumps seniority when trips are assigned. I suspect that the end result is that the entire reserve system will start going more junior as senior pilots start bidding lines.
08-27-2024, 01:03 PM
#224
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Joined APC: Jul 2023
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You might see that change and get forced back to reserve. September is the first month that the new reserve system where buckets and reserve days worked trumps seniority when trips are assigned. I suspect that the end result is that the entire reserve system will start going more junior as senior pilots start bidding lines.
08-27-2024, 06:45 PM
#225
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Joined APC: Dec 2013
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 2,315
You might see that change and get forced back to reserve. September is the first month that the new reserve system where buckets and reserve days worked trumps seniority when trips are assigned. I suspect that the end result is that the entire reserve system will start going more junior as senior pilots start bidding lines.
08-28-2024, 03:27 AM
#226
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Joined APC: Sep 2017
Posts: 1,124
You might see that change and get forced back to reserve. September is the first month that the new reserve system where buckets and reserve days worked trumps seniority when trips are assigned. I suspect that the end result is that the entire reserve system will start going more junior as senior pilots start bidding lines.
Folks used to gripe about if you were senior and got a 3 day because you were in Group 2 over a junior guy in group 3 who was QLA. Well, you've flown less so, you're getting it first. And that wasn't limited to outside DOTC. You'd just get JM'd right off the bat in DOTC.
Dont get me wrong, I thoroughly enjoyed the old system, but I think RAS will actually be better. I agree it may go senior after the shoulder months and seeing how it is going, especially SC since they really emphasize SC last and only in bucket to the max extent. The logic even options to fly a LC into DFP prior to using a SC.
RAS training yesterday was helpful. Suggest you go back and watch the recording.
08-28-2024, 03:41 AM
#227
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Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 222
RDW is only factored during assignments outside DOTC. Everything is first run as an award, in seniority order, first. Then, if needed, RDW is factored, again, only in runs outside DOTC. Plus the new RAS seq solutions favor a senior pilot.
Folks used to gripe about if you were senior and got a 3 day because you were in Group 2 over a junior guy in group 3 who was QLA. Well, you've flown less so, you're getting it first. And that wasn't limited to outside DOTC. You'd just get JM'd right off the bat in DOTC.
Dont get me wrong, I thoroughly enjoyed the old system, but I think RAS will actually be better. I agree it may go senior after the shoulder months and seeing how it is going, especially SC since they really emphasize SC last and only in bucket to the max extent. The logic even options to fly a LC into DFP prior to using a SC.
RAS training yesterday was helpful. Suggest you go back and watch the recording.
Folks used to gripe about if you were senior and got a 3 day because you were in Group 2 over a junior guy in group 3 who was QLA. Well, you've flown less so, you're getting it first. And that wasn't limited to outside DOTC. You'd just get JM'd right off the bat in DOTC.
Dont get me wrong, I thoroughly enjoyed the old system, but I think RAS will actually be better. I agree it may go senior after the shoulder months and seeing how it is going, especially SC since they really emphasize SC last and only in bucket to the max extent. The logic even options to fly a LC into DFP prior to using a SC.
RAS training yesterday was helpful. Suggest you go back and watch the recording.
08-28-2024, 06:45 AM
#229
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Joined APC: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,328
RDW is only factored during assignments outside DOTC. Everything is first run as an award, in seniority order, first. Then, if needed, RDW is factored, again, only in runs outside DOTC. Plus the new RAS seq solutions favor a senior pilot.
Folks used to gripe about if you were senior and got a 3 day because you were in Group 2 over a junior guy in group 3 who was QLA. Well, you've flown less so, you're getting it first. And that wasn't limited to outside DOTC. You'd just get JM'd right off the bat in DOTC.
Dont get me wrong, I thoroughly enjoyed the old system, but I think RAS will actually be better. I agree it may go senior after the shoulder months and seeing how it is going, especially SC since they really emphasize SC last and only in bucket to the max extent. The logic even options to fly a LC into DFP prior to using a SC.
RAS training yesterday was helpful. Suggest you go back and watch the recording.
Folks used to gripe about if you were senior and got a 3 day because you were in Group 2 over a junior guy in group 3 who was QLA. Well, you've flown less so, you're getting it first. And that wasn't limited to outside DOTC. You'd just get JM'd right off the bat in DOTC.
Dont get me wrong, I thoroughly enjoyed the old system, but I think RAS will actually be better. I agree it may go senior after the shoulder months and seeing how it is going, especially SC since they really emphasize SC last and only in bucket to the max extent. The logic even options to fly a LC into DFP prior to using a SC.
RAS training yesterday was helpful. Suggest you go back and watch the recording.
08-28-2024, 06:54 AM
#230
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Joined APC: Aug 2016
Posts: 307
This is actually terrible. Being junior on LC is bad enough without this. Praying they start hiring again soon because I got worked every day in August up to my limit with multiple redeyes. The only thing that would be worse is working into DFPs.[/size]
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