OOfff

irony? Or just cluelessness? What exactly is delta’s policy on HUD use that you think needs changing?
Aren’t you the one in here telling people what policies are asinine and who holds what portion of fault for an event that hasn’t been investigated?

but you accuse others of feelings of superiority and embarrassing themselves?

Margaritaville

Keep digging.

Someone else on here a couple pages ago said that's Delta's policy to use it for all takeoffs. Ask him. Sounds dumb to me.

The rest of that, swing and a miss as usual.

Awaiting your next inane response.

aa73

I don’t know if this has any bearing on the conversation but the HUD is required for EVERY takeoff and landing at AA no matter what the weather is. It’s done for tailstrike avoidance. I personally can’t stand having it down on VFR days and nights as it definitely does limit forward visibility… especially rolling down the runway (I’ll never see someone crossing in front of me until the F/O yells out.)

Pretty sure it is required at Delta too.

formerdal

Really, what does this have to do with anything? Overwhelmed by making a PA to seat the passengers before TO-come on?!. Does being female make her different? You have made a bunch of assumptions in your post and they are all wrong...I stick by my initial reaction. You are a piece of work!

Gone Flying

it is required at DL for the same reason, amplified by the fact the -900 (which makes up 2/3 of our NG fleet) has even less margin for error on a tail strike. But don’t let that stop Margaritaville from thinking that’s because all DL pilots want to play fighter pilot.

Gone Flying

The dude is happy you lost your pension. That should tell you all you need to know about him.

pangolin

The ADSB data shows he might not have seen it yet.

AllYourBaseAreB

777 could have easily been hidden in the glare of the terminal lights, and it has yet to be said whether or not the 777 turned on all his lights/strobes.

aa73

Illuminating all exterior lights when crossing runways has never been a thing here at AA. I couldn’t believe it when I came here from my previous regional, where it was almost a check ride bust not to illuminate when crossing. But believe it or not, it was never a requirement here. The closest thing we have in our manuals is “use exterior lights as appropriate to enhance visibility” or something along those lines. That said, most F/Os on the 737 do turn on the wing and strobe lights (I always turn on my runway turnoff and landing lights) probably due to the airlines we all came from. But to this day I still see plenty of night runway crossings at DFW, CLT, etc where the aircraft stay completely dark. So I wouldn’t be surprised if our 777 stayed dark as well. I just remember that USAir 737 plowing into the Skywest Metroliner back in 1991 at LAX all too well…

I once dared to turn on the 757 exterior lights when crossing at JFK years ago at night as an F/O. There was another aircraft in pos and hold on that runway.. and I remember the CA getting real ticked off at me while proclaiming, “that’s not procedure and those are not your light switches. Shut em off you’re blinding everyone around us.” I was like, umm, that’s the point.

Maybe we’ll finally catch up to the rest of the world and make it mandatory to illuminate when crossing after this incident.

HPIC

Do you understand that the policy at AA is for the Captain on the 737 is to use the HUD for every takeoff and landing, regardless of the weather? Do you see any potential issue there?