Originally Posted by TallFlyer

That could be policy at your last carrier, but I don't think that's a reg.

In the two jets I have time in, the CRJ lacks a tiller on the FO side (so limited to +/- 8 deg with the rudders if the FO is driving), and there is a tiller on the 320, but I only ever used it in the sim.

Originally Posted by Arado 234

Speaking of the Bus, why can we not use the trim for taxi? Why does the rudder trim have to be set to neutral before commencing taxi?

Originally Posted by AllYourBaseAreB

im not some old and busted captain. Hell I’m not even 40, but I’ve been a captain here for almost a decade. I do know the control freak whackadoodles exist though.

That being said….A lot of our new hires over the years have literally never made a PA ever or are way out of practice. On the 190 it was split duty, and they had to learn. Then the AAL mentality started permeating. Then practically policy (but not really) that I do it all. I still offered but half refused. Then the 190 went away and almost no one wanted to do them on my new fleet so I stopped asking. Many FO’s general lack of awareness of the timing of the PAs, much less the content is palpable, during the few trips I’ve done since the switch. I’m not going to listen to them talk, but Half the time I have to show them the button (if it even works after so many years of disuse), how not talk over the FA’s PA, and when to make them, etc. Stupid house cleaning crap that I’m sure is an annoying distraction for everyone, and it’s not their fault. It would have normally been ironed in a loft sim or on IOE. To top it off the captains have to break their reflexes that go back to the 727… (hand motion for gear much?!?). So yeah, we’re all professionals, but we are breaking the yoke of 90 years of ancestor worship this month.

Originally Posted by sanicom3205

There are many, many captains here who make PAs over the FAs. Jump right into their spiel that no one listens to without listening ten times out of ten. When they interrupt a credit card sales pitch it’s great. When it’s the 4th PA over a 2 hour long flight at the crack of dawn, not so much. So now the captain is micromanaging you to make the prepare for takeoff PA while they’re still doing the demo in the back… the comedic side of it wears off pretty quick.

The wAAy we do it here is to assume the FO knows nothing and the sky god in the left seat is infallible. I guess you sit in the left seat long enough here and you don’t even realize the mentality, but it’s a solid percentage. Lotta guys still out there not letting the FO make cruise PAs…. We drink CRM light in these parts.

Originally Posted by golfandflows

So AA acts like most of their FO’s weren’t captains for several year(s) prior? Wow

Originally Posted by aa73

I upgraded 6 years ago. I was considered part of the “newer” generation of Captains (hired in 2000) that were slowly breaking away from the years and years of ancestral worship plaguing this airline. I actively involve the F/O in every decision I make… hey, how’s this arrival fuel, wanna add more? Hey whaddaya think about this alternate.. etc, etc. Most of them look at me like I was from another planet. Nowadays it’s slowly getting better.

So I also and constantly offered the F/O every PA imaginable. Guess what.. maybe 1 out of 100 would take me up on it. Everyone else? “They don’t pay me enough to make PAs.” Ok then.

THAT’s probably why the reaction is what it is today. It’s not that it’s not being offered - it’s just that captains are probably sick of offering them and being told no thanks over and over again.

FYI, just about 100% of F/Os I fly with are former Captains and could do the job as well or even better than I can, right now, today.

Originally Posted by Margaritaville

Betcha the Delta guy was using the HUD for takeoff. They seem to love the thing over there (they still like to play fighter pilot). You can't see any kind of distance when you're staring through that thing, especially at night and focused on its content 6 inches in front of you. Shouldn't be used for takeoff but they all do every time I've jumped on them. The FO was probably heads down looking at the gauges.

Originally Posted by golfandflows

So AA acts like most of their FO’s weren’t captains for several year(s) prior? Wow

Originally Posted by CADR

Sadly this is pretty true. A lot of the old left seat guys are also getting butt hurt that their is a hiring boom and most of the new FOs are sub 35 years old. They think beings at a regional and being a regional jet Captain is like flying left seat in a 172…

Honestly though most issues stem from the older guys at AA being from a completely different era and are all former military and never worked at a regional. They are just frankly out of touch with reality on a lot of things.

It’s a different world these days and thankfully AA will be a completely new airline so to speak in 5 years or so with all the retirements.