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Old 12-31-2022, 04:00 PM
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I am currently living in NorCal, however plan to move to Dallas area early 2023, no matter the airline. I have a military background of C-5/T6. I am currently at SWA training with an approaching AA indoc class. I have heard the culture is the reason to pick SWA but the senority movement at AA is impossible to ignore especially with most of my experience being international and that will be hard to give up in my eyes. Any information and inputs from grey beards out there to give direction will be heavily appreciated. Thank you for your time and consideration.
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Do you want to fly a 737 the rest of your career with 10 years as an FO? Do you like their cowboy culture? Can you even hold DAL as a new hire over there?

AA offers a world of possibilities, and newhires can definitely hold DFW.
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Originally Posted by ExFredDriver
I am currently living in NorCal, however plan to move to Dallas area early 2023, no matter the airline. I have a military background of C-5/T6. I am currently at SWA training with an approaching AA indoc class. I have heard the culture is the reason to pick SWA but the senority movement at AA is impossible to ignore especially with most of my experience being international and that will be hard to give up in my eyes. Any information and inputs from grey beards out there to give direction will be heavily appreciated. Thank you for your time and consideration.
From what I’m reading the culture at SWA doesn’t seem to exist anymore. So I wouldn’t base a decision on that. From what it sounds like you would like to prioritize, AA seems more your alley. You can get LAX on first vacancy as my classmate did while in west coast then switch to DFW when you move. And have the option to go WB down the road.

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I am currently living in NorCal, however plan to move to Dallas area early 2023, no matter the airline. I have a military background of C-5/T6. I am currently at SWA training with an approaching AA indoc class. I have heard the culture is the reason to pick SWA but the senority movement at AA is impossible to ignore especially with most of my experience being international and that will be hard to give up in my eyes. Any information and inputs from grey beards out there to give direction will be heavily appreciated. Thank you for your time and consideration.
If you’re only concerned about the largest W2 you can get and are fine with sacrificing days off to do it, SWA. Otherwise AA for sure. Both companies have inept management teams. AA has variety of fleets, flying and destinations.
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Several buddies of mine went swa and regret it. Historically they’ve been the superior company, but I believe that paradigm is shifting. To top it all off, they fly objectively the worst narrow body airliner in the world.
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You’ll make more at SWA, but work a lot more when at work, with more days off. Less seniority and single fleet type hurts in that regard as well.
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You’ll make more at SWA, but work a lot more when at work, with more days off. Less seniority and single fleet type hurts in that regard as well.
Im not buying that you’ll make more at SWA. What is that based on? DFW upgrades will likely drop to sub 4 years. Lots of PM (Premium) and PR (premium Reserve) for FO’s and CA’s who choose to partake right now, even jr pilots can get it.
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If you care about money you can certainly make it here. We have IMAX. It allows guys to make 14 months pay and get 2 months off every year (no premium pay required). You can either take those 2 months as vacation or use them to pick up a bunch of premium. They are also picking premium the other months too

Some of these guys are clearing 500-700k on the NB
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Well, if it helps you any, I have been at SWA for 16 years and have an interview at AA in a few weeks. Commuting for most of my time (I live in a junior AA base), the ****ty SWA schedules (800 block year average), kind of getting tired of the 737, and very very very slow seniority progression in ATL and MCO has opened my eyes to other opportunities.

SWA is a good company overall, but living in DFW, I would go AA.
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Originally Posted by AllYourBaseAreB
If you care about money you can certainly make it here. We have IMAX. It allows guys to make 14 months pay and get 2 months off every year (no premium pay required). You can either take those 2 months as vacation or use them to pick up a bunch of premium. They are also picking premium the other months too

Some of these guys are clearing 500-700k on the NB
Sent you a pm. Interested to see how that works!
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