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Old 11-20-2023, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by En Garde
so are hires are still waiting to get 401k DC??
no

filler...
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Old 11-20-2023, 09:26 AM
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New hires get 401k contributions immediately as of date of signing.

Suss is referring to the other part of the change, which was to align the annual pay raise date with date of hire. That's in effect for new hires as well, but the rest of us have to wait as long as December 2024 for the company to fix it. And since it costs the company money, and there's no real incentive for them to go faster, nobody expects it any sooner.
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Old 11-20-2023, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by mammywhammy
Interview 11/7, successful board and CJO 11/9. Prints and drug test Monday 11/13, and all the PRIA and driver paperwork from onboarding background check stuff. Still waiting.

11/14, day after prints and drug test, I got an email saying to expect a call “soon” and they were filling February. Heard from a friend of a guy on my same interview date that he’s already placed in Feb 15. Crazy, when just a couple weeks prior they had classes with only a couple weeks’ lead time. That December pause is significant.

still haven’t heard anything… have you?
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Old 11-20-2023, 10:27 AM
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still haven’t heard anything… have you?
Nah. Crickets, still.
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Old 11-20-2023, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by mammywhammy
Nah. Crickets, still.
I just got the call today. 2/14 Class Start Date.

10/31 Interview
11/2 Review Board CJO
11/6 Drug Tests
11/14 Fingerprinting (my nearest hub wasn't open till 11/14)
11/20 Call for Class Start

They said all classes are filled up to 2/7. 2/14 earliest start.
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Old 11-20-2023, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Westcoastb
I just got the call today. 2/14 Class Start Date.

10/31 Interview
11/2 Review Board CJO
11/6 Drug Tests
11/14 Fingerprinting (my nearest hub wasn't open till 11/14)
11/20 Call for Class Start

They said all classes are filled up to 2/7. 2/14 earliest start.
Congratulations. When did you get your first contact from AA recruiting? When did you get your interview proffer? Trying to help some guys understand the lead time from first contact from AA recruiting ("Hey....would you be interested in interviewing??") to training start. I'm telling them I think it's probably 4 months. Would that be approx. what your first contact to CJO to class date was?
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Old 11-20-2023, 08:28 PM
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Congratulations. When did you get your first contact from AA recruiting? When did you get your interview proffer? Trying to help some guys understand the lead time from first contact from AA recruiting ("Hey....would you be interested in interviewing??") to training start. I'm telling them I think it's probably 4 months. Would that be approx. what your first contact to CJO to class date was?
Thanks!

10/11 Application submtted.
10/11 Online skills test sent and taken that night
10/12 phone call for interview on 10/31
10/24 virtual zoom HR interview
10/31 interview, sent to review board
11/2 CJO from board

not sure if unusual to hear back so quickly. 3 internal LORs. Former military fighter guy. B737 type rating at LCC. Over 400 hours 121 SIC in the last year.
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Old 11-20-2023, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Westcoastb
Thanks!

10/11 Application submtted.
10/11 Online skills test sent and taken that night
10/12 phone call for interview on 10/31
10/24 virtual zoom HR interview
10/31 interview, sent to review board
11/2 CJO from board

not sure if unusual to hear back so quickly. 3 internal LORs. Former military fighter guy. B737 type rating at LCC. Over 400 hours 121 SIC in the last year.
other than being a space shuttle commander, your resume is the ultimate AA box checker
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Originally Posted by Westcoastb
Thanks!

10/11 Application submtted.
10/11 Online skills test sent and taken that night
10/12 phone call for interview on 10/31
10/24 virtual zoom HR interview
10/31 interview, sent to review board
11/2 CJO from board

not sure if unusual to hear back so quickly. 3 internal LORs. Former military fighter guy. B737 type rating at LCC. Over 400 hours 121 SIC in the last year.
That's VERY unusual. "Former". If you have 1000 hrs fighter AND a 121 737 FO job they'd start drooling when your application was entered. Application 10/11.... called 10/12. That's ringing the bell but also shows how few of those applicants are out there. We called the water walkers/fast burners 'rock stars' among the recruiting volunteers. But even they took 3-4 months to get a call for an interview back in 2014. Pure miltary fighter/ISR guy. Got his 121 job at a regional and rapidly the interview offers came - SW, UA, AA, DL. It looked like the 121 on top of his F-18/K350 resume rang the bell. Quickest I back then was a Captain's son who had Part 121 and ANG fighter time...rang the bell when he got his IP qual....took about 10-14 (?) days for them to contact him after he put the IP qual in the system. Back in 2014-2017 there was 14-17,000 applicants and 30% (4-5000) had 1000 hrs TPIC. The majors were only hiring 3,000 (??) back then. Now? They're hiring 6,000 (?) and in August 22 AA had 5,900 applicants and only 741 had 1,000 hrs TPIC. The supply pool has gotten worse since then. Guys with no insider connections has said - 1500 hrs CFI, 1,000 hrs regional FO...got the call. Hired before 2700-2800 hrs.
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Old 11-21-2023, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
That's VERY unusual. "Former". If you have 1000 hrs fighter AND a 121 737 FO job they'd start drooling when your application was entered. Application 10/11.... called 10/12. That's ringing the bell but also shows how few of those applicants are out there. We called the water walkers/fast burners 'rock stars' among the recruiting volunteers. But even they took 3-4 months to get a call for an interview back in 2014. Pure miltary fighter/ISR guy. Got his 121 job at a regional and rapidly the interview offers came - SW, UA, AA, DL. It looked like the 121 on top of his F-18/K350 resume rang the bell. Quickest I back then was a Captain's son who had Part 121 and ANG fighter time...rang the bell when he got his IP qual....took about 10-14 (?) days for them to contact him after he put the IP qual in the system. Back in 2014-2017 there was 14-17,000 applicants and 30% (4-5000) had 1000 hrs TPIC. The majors were only hiring 3,000 (??) back then. Now? They're hiring 6,000 (?) and in August 22 AA had 5,900 applicants and only 741 had 1,000 hrs TPIC. The supply pool has gotten worse since then. Guys with no insider connections has said - 1500 hrs CFI, 1,000 hrs regional FO...got the call. Hired before 2700-2800 hrs.
seems like they have ramped up hiring like crazy though. Ran into a a handful of guys at LCC/regionals at the interview, some corporate, a few military. With 3-4 sessions of interviews twice a week and 10-12 interviewees per session, that’s like 60-80 interviews a week to fill classes. It’s a great time to get in with AA.
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