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Old 01-24-2023, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by pilot28042
Show me on the doll where AA hurt you
I can show you on my schedule and paycheck (or lack thereof considering I currently have two outstanding direct connects where I am owed thousands of dollars yet am ignored by the payroll dept and chief pilots office)

But sure, keep drinking the kool aid. AA management loves stooges like you and newbies who are too blinded by the shiny lights and rah-rah we’re one big happy family team member mentality that plagues this place. Just take a look at Skyview and compare it to your crew room and tell me you’re a valued “team member” with a straight face.
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Old 01-24-2023, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ny797
I can show you on my schedule and paycheck (or lack thereof considering I currently have two outstanding direct connects where I am owed thousands of dollars yet am ignored by the payroll dept and chief pilots office)

But sure, keep drinking the kool aid. AA management loves stooges like you and newbies who are too blinded by the shiny lights and rah-rah were one big happy family team member mentality that plagues this place. Just take a look at Skyview and compare it to your crew room and tell me you’re a valued “team member” with a straight face.
🙄🙄
Oh brother. It’s all in the attitude of life, and you clearly are one of those folks I’ve seen too many times over the years who just HATE their jobs, hate the company they work for, mock anyone who dares have a different opinion on literally anything, and are just plainly miserable, period. Dot. The end. But wait. The comeback is ALWAYS, and I mean ALWAYS, “no, I’m a realist!” Ok, sure man.

Do contracts change? Is today’s place to be tomorrow’s place NOT to be? Always, yes.

But hey, you’re not angry and bitter. Not at all. 🙄

Not sure your age, but clearly AA is not your place, so (with DL and UA hiring as many as we are, and with more upside for you, I assume), why are you not getting out asap? Don’t tell us you’re stuck here for whatever reason because no one is forcing you to work here. There’s no gun to the head.

Move on man. Go to DL or wherever you’ll be happy. The more time you waste here, the more seniority you’ll lose elsewhere.

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Old 01-25-2023, 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 450knotOffice
🙄🙄
Oh brother. It’s all in the attitude of life, and you clearly are one of those folks I’ve seen too many times over the years who just HATE their jobs, hate the company they work for, mock anyone who dares have a different opinion on literally anything, and are just plainly miserable, period. Dot. The end. But wait. The comeback is ALWAYS, and I mean ALWAYS, “no, I’m a realist!” Ok, sure man.

Do contracts change? Is today’s place to be tomorrow’s place NOT to be? Always, yes.

But hey, you’re not angry and bitter. Not at all. 🙄

Not sure your age, but clearly AA is not your place, so (with DL and UA hiring as many as we are, and with more upside for you, I assume), why are you not getting out asap? Don’t tell us you’re stuck here for whatever reason because no one is forcing you to work here. There’s no gun to the head.

Move on man. Go to DL or wherever you’ll be happy. The more time you waste here, the more seniority you’ll lose elsewhere.
I love how you’re full of personal attacks on a stranger from the internet, yet refuse to even touch on anything I said. Keep rowing! It’s weaklings like you who don’t push back that keep us from progressing forward and instead get consistently walked over.

Oh, day 1 of the our crackpot IT teams new version of trip trading started yesterday. Apparently it takes about 5 minutes to load up the webpage just to try and execute a trade that is destined to fail. Something that was previously accomplished in about 30 seconds. What say you about that?
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Old 01-25-2023, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ny797
I can show you on my schedule and paycheck (or lack thereof considering I currently have two outstanding direct connects where I am owed thousands of dollars yet am ignored by the payroll dept and chief pilots office)

But sure, keep drinking the kool aid. AA management loves stooges like you and newbies who are too blinded by the shiny lights and rah-rah we’re one big happy family team member mentality that plagues this place. Just take a look at Skyview and compare it to your crew room and tell me you’re a valued “team member” with a straight face.
Originally Posted by ny797
I love how you’re full of personal attacks on a stranger from the internet, yet refuse to even touch on anything I said. Keep rowing! It’s weaklings like you who don’t push back that keep us from progressing forward and instead get consistently walked over.

Oh, day 1 of the our crackpot IT teams new version of trip trading started yesterday. Apparently it takes about 5 minutes to load up the webpage just to try and execute a trade that is destined to fail. Something that was previously accomplished in about 30 seconds. What say you about that?
Jesus. Retire already.

Bet you're either still mad about the merger(s) or you got shot down by every other airline and you're stuck here. Bet you came out of the MIL and haven't held too many real aviation jobs before this one either. Sucks to be "stuck" here at a legacy international airline where someone can make almost $300,000 flying as a NB CA or WB FO within 5 years of getting hired. It's guys like you that mAAke everyone else miserable at work. You're the outlier. Everyone but you can see that. You're part of the problem.
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Old 01-25-2023, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ny797
I can show you on my schedule and paycheck (or lack thereof considering I currently have two outstanding direct connects where I am owed thousands of dollars yet am ignored by the payroll dept and chief pilots office)

But sure, keep drinking the kool aid. AA management loves stooges like you and newbies who are too blinded by the shiny lights and rah-rah we’re one big happy family team member mentality that plagues this place. Just take a look at Skyview and compare it to your crew room and tell me you’re a valued “team member” with a straight face.

it will take a while but later this year, when the new hires at AA realize that a contract is still not even close, some of them will begin to leave for Delta, United and others. Delta and United will have pay rates about 20% higher, higher profit sharing, more WB planes, and MUCH better work rules. The only ones that will feel happy about staying are those that live in DFW, CLT, or MIA and enjoy flying Narrowbody aircraft for significantly less money, with less sick time, less vacation time, and enjoy working for an airline who does not value their employees and will never be leaders in the industry. Heck, we can’t even nonrev travel in aisle or window seats anymore. Middle seats only for AA employees going forward! Exciting times.
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Old 01-25-2023, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by LBFO79
it will take a while but later this year, when the new hires at AA realize that a contract is still not even close, some of them will begin to leave for Delta, United and others. Delta and United will have pay rates about 20% higher, higher profit sharing, more WB planes, and MUCH better work rules. The only ones that will feel happy about staying are those that live in DFW, CLT, or MIA and enjoy flying Narrowbody aircraft for significantly less money, with less sick time, less vacation time, and enjoy working for an airline who does not value their employees and will never be leaders in the industry. Heck, we can’t even nonrev travel in aisle or window seats anymore. Middle seats only for AA employees going forward! Exciting times.
I just turned dow Delta interview for the second time. I do like the bases so that is the drive for me. Sorry but we will get the pay rates others have. But yea maybe we’ll be less pay than others but to some money isn’t everything. I’d rather make 50K less and have the QOL living in base still making 350k as a NB CA more if I want living in base. And for non rev, no issues for me. Got business back and forth to TLV, get good seats domestic. Yesterday was my first time middle seat and that’s because I was listed on a later flight but since I landed early ran to the gate without ever listing for it and being last they still got me a seat and saved 2 hours 🤷
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Old 01-25-2023, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville
Jesus. Retire already.

Bet you're either still mad about the merger(s) or you got shot down by every other airline and you're stuck here. Bet you came out of the MIL and haven't held too many real aviation jobs before this one either. Sucks to be "stuck" here at a legacy international airline where someone can make almost $300,000 flying as a NB CA or WB FO within 5 years of getting hired. It's guys like you that mAAke everyone else miserable at work. You're the outlier. Everyone but you can see that. You're part of the problem.

Ahh the personal attacks when you can’t contradict anything I said. Love it! Management loves the mission hackers like you! Keep rowing!
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Old 01-25-2023, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ny797
Ahh the personal attacks when you can’t contradict anything I said. Love it! Management loves the mission hackers like you! Keep rowing!
If you’re so miserable, why are you here?
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Old 01-25-2023, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
If you’re so miserable, why are you here?
Who said I was miserable? I’m calling out the huge disparity between AA and UAL/DAL (I have good friends at both and they can’t believe the crap we put up with) for people about to make such a big career decision when there are much better options out there. Pretty simple really. Does that make me miserable? Nope.
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Old 01-25-2023, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ny797
Who said I was miserable? I’m calling out the huge disparity between AA and UAL/DAL (I have good friends at both and they can’t believe the crap we put up with) for people about to make such a big career decision when there are much better options out there. Pretty simple really. Does that make me miserable? Nope.
There’s also delta/United folks that came here and said the grass isn’t greener there. Same **** different logo. People just love to complain.
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