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Old 01-21-2024, 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Chimpy
is PHL AB still Junior-ish?
Yes. As junior as Miami
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Old 01-21-2024, 05:24 AM
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Yes. As junior as Miami
thx.................
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Old 01-21-2024, 05:41 AM
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South Florida B6 guy with an app in hoping to come over. Ton of friends at DL and UA but none at AA, with 3000+ turbine 6000+ TT am I looking at attending an expo to meet some recruiters? Or is that enough time to get an interview without internal recs?
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Old 01-21-2024, 05:54 AM
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South Florida B6 guy with an app in hoping to come over. Ton of friends at DL and UA but none at AA, with 3000+ turbine 6000+ TT am I looking at attending an expo to meet some recruiters? Or is that enough time to get an interview without internal recs?
Who knows. There apparently was an unknown amount of brownie points in the past (2014-2016) when I was helping at job fairs. One out of 100? Two out of 1,000? No one knew.

It apparently helps. Otherwise why would they be having 'meet the Chiefs' opportunities?

The magic number of TT, turbine PIC, turbine time that you need is....who knows. The only criteria they've acknowledged is 'highly qualified' and 'competitive'. Delta said that was 1000 TPIC and 500 TPIC. AA pilot hiring team weren't happy when the Delta CP said those numbers. The feeling was that AA used the same numbers.

With 6,000 TT, 3,000 turbine, 121 time at a major airline, A320 type rating, I'd think you'd be in the sweet spot. TPIC would be a big plus, especially Part 121 TPIC. Top guy said they're lacking in applicants who have TPIC "other than PC-12 time" (sounded like he wasn't impressed by PC-12 time). Based on that I'd think they'd like to see jet TPIC or non-SEL turboprop PIC.
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Old 01-21-2024, 09:02 AM
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Who knows. There apparently was an unknown amount of brownie points in the past (2014-2016) when I was helping at job fairs. One out of 100? Two out of 1,000? No one knew.

It apparently helps. Otherwise why would they be having 'meet the Chiefs' opportunities?

The magic number of TT, turbine PIC, turbine time that you need is....who knows. The only criteria they've acknowledged is 'highly qualified' and 'competitive'. Delta said that was 1000 TPIC and 500 TPIC. AA pilot hiring team weren't happy when the Delta CP said those numbers. The feeling was that AA used the same numbers.

With 6,000 TT, 3,000 turbine, 121 time at a major airline, A320 type rating, I'd think you'd be in the sweet spot. TPIC would be a big plus, especially Part 121 TPIC. Top guy said they're lacking in applicants who have TPIC "other than PC-12 time" (sounded like he wasn't impressed by PC-12 time). Based on that I'd think they'd like to see jet TPIC or non-SEL turboprop PIC.
Thanks for the reply, alas no TPIC. I see there's a Meet The Chiefs on Friday but they aren't allowing further bookings. Bummer, that would have been perfect
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Old 01-21-2024, 09:46 AM
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Thanks for the reply, alas no TPIC. I see there's a Meet The Chiefs on Friday but they aren't allowing further bookings. Bummer, that would have been perfect
Go to the job fairs. Back in 2014-2015 a regional FO (!!!) had gone to 18 (!!!) job fairs even when the majors weren't hiring. EVERY hiring team knew him. First name basis. Good guy. Think what regional FO pay was back in the 2014-2016? Ugly. At a minimum he'd non-rev in that morning and take a late flight back home. Only out any registration fees and food.

Fast forward airlines start hiring and he's getting no traction. FO w/seat stagnation. There were more TPIC candidates w/1000 hrs TPIC than the Big 4 were hiring. They'd tell him "get some TPIC time". He gets his upgrade and a Big 3 airline interviews him. He's at the Big 3 airline before he finishes consolidation. Getting 121 PIC qualification, and passing the training, was the trigger for him. He retires in the top 100.

It's relatively cheap to go to a job fair. Put yourself out there.

Don't have a new rating in the last year or two? I'd go get more. SES, PPL glider, MES, Comm glider, are easy/cheap ways to fluff your resume. In the past some airlines didn't care for guys that hadn't gone through a training cycle (new a/c or upgrade in the same a/c) for years. Is the guy 'hiding' (not uncommon with guys who struggle)?

What triggers the call is unknown. But as many check marks in your favor that you can. Sitting on your current resume when there's other relatively steps out there is just 'hoping and praying.' I tell guys "you had your foot on the gas when you were trying to get hired. Why stop now? Chase #1 hard until it no longer makes sense while you stay at the lower ranked job that improves in value ever month you're not at #1 due to seniority improvement at your current job and more younger bodies ahead of you at job #1, 2, 3, etc.

Good luck.

If you get hired report back on any steps did, or didn't, take.
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Hiring slowing down. Stay tuned.
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Old 01-22-2024, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by AB321Driver
Hiring slowing down. Stay tuned.
nice and vague, just how I like it
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Old 01-22-2024, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by AB321Driver
Hiring slowing down. Stay tuned.
Maybe we wait until the State of the Airline on Thursday to see what's going on?
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Originally Posted by AB321Driver
Hiring slowing down. Stay tuned.
wouldn't be surprised. AA has always been reactionary and is noticing what other airlines are doing. I suspected they may start to reevaluate their hiring numbers sometime early this year.
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