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Old 02-07-2023, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Zerosilver84
For someone who said they have 30 years left and all the complaining on here you do about AA I can’t understand why you don’t go else elsewhere?
Can you point to anything I’ve said that’s not true? Don’t worry about me, I’m doing just fine 😉
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Old 02-07-2023, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ny797
Can you point to anything I’ve said that’s not true? Don’t worry about me, I’m doing just fine 😉
Is there any way to mute this guy? Dude is all doom and gloom
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Old 02-07-2023, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ny797
You’re free to think all you want, but that’s not the reality of what’s happening and what’s been said by upper management. Isom specifically said as recent as 2 weeks ago that their priority is short haul international and domestic…unless you have some inside knowledge about AA seeing and being envious of the delta/United margins due to their competency running a global airline, you’re just projecting “hopes and dreams”.
Is he going to be CEO for the next 30 years?
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Old 02-07-2023, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Forman
Is he going to be CEO for the next 30 years?
Nope. Normally I would agree with your line of thinking about changes in leadership, but when was the last time anybody in senior AA management came from the outside and not simply promoted from within? Heck, Parker is retired yet still sits as Chairman of the Board at AAL!

As the old saying goes, they’re all cut from the same cloth. Do you agree Red, or disagree?
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Old 02-07-2023, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ny797
You’re free to think all you want, but that’s not the reality of what’s happening and what’s been said by upper management. Isom specifically said as recent as 2 weeks ago that their priority is short haul international and domestic…unless you have some inside knowledge about AA seeing and being envious of the delta/United margins due to their competency running a global airline, you’re just projecting “hopes and dreams”.
He said near-term priority not long, but that doesn’t fit your narrative.
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Old 02-07-2023, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by aggieflyboy
He said near-term priority not long, but that doesn’t fit your narrative.
I don’t have a narrative at all. I would love American Airlines to be a global powerhouse competing with the like of Delta and United. The problem is I can’t find any evidence that supports that direction. Can you?
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Old 02-07-2023, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ny797
You’re free to think all you want, but that’s not the reality of what’s happening and what’s been said by upper management. Isom specifically said as recent as 2 weeks ago that their priority is short haul international and domestic…unless you have some inside knowledge about AA seeing and being envious of the delta/United margins due to their competency running a global airline, you’re just projecting “hopes and dreams”.
I am not sure you why you are saying short haul is contradictory to margins. Reducing group 9 inventory without forfeiting market share increases the margins.

If they think short haul domestic/international provides the most inventory to sell with their fleet then why would they pull down that schedule to go explore new routes. People get bored when they add international frequency instead of add destinations but that doesn’t prove that margins are better into secondary or further international markets. Margins on annual aircraft utilization not margins on 1 short route vs 1 long route.

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Old 02-07-2023, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ny797
I don’t have a narrative at all. I would love American Airlines to be a global powerhouse competing with the like of Delta and United. The problem is I can’t find any evidence that supports that direction. Can you?
You have already formed your conclusions, no amount of evidence would convince you.
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Old 02-07-2023, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by aggieflyboy
He said near-term priority not long, but that doesn’t fit your narrative.
Mgt said AA will be transitioning the airline from a 70/30 (shot haul to long haul ratio) to an 80/20 and use our international partners to grow the global network. On the earnings call they said AA is going to focus on what we do best, domestic and short haul international. Make of that what you will. Our head network planner Brian Znotins said our hubs are structurally inferior to those at UAL and DAL when it comes to Asia and European flying. But who knows, maybe that will change.
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Old 02-07-2023, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ny797
Nope. Normally I would agree with your line of thinking about changes in leadership, but when was the last time anybody in senior AA management came from the outside and not simply promoted from within? Heck, Parker is retired yet still sits as Chairman of the Board at AAL!

As the old saying goes, they’re all cut from the same cloth. Do you agree Red, or disagree?
Is American the same airline it was 30 years ago?
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