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Old 03-25-2022, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ACEssXfer
Unfortunately this is not the case. It’s expected training completion which can be months later.
It’s a serious deficiency in our contract, every new hire (hired LAA side since 2014) should be asking to fix this and voting accordingly in elections. But, APA gives zero F*(ks about it, many don’t even realize that this isn’t industry standard. It sounds small, but there are a few large raises early in the pay scale, like year 1 to 2, and then a pay raise for 12 years. Delay raises by 3 months…12 times, apply time value of money to it, and it probably costs each new hire about $20k.

We’ve hired about 4500 LAA side since 2014, you’d think they would make a stink over this.
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Old 03-26-2022, 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by PRS Guitars
It’s a serious deficiency in our contract, every new hire (hired LAA side since 2014) should be asking to fix this and voting accordingly in elections. But, APA gives zero F*(ks about it, many don’t even realize that this isn’t industry standard. It sounds small, but there are a few large raises early in the pay scale, like year 1 to 2, and then a pay raise for 12 years. Delay raises by 3 months…12 times, apply time value of money to it, and it probably costs each new hire about $20k.

We’ve hired about 4500 LAA side since 2014, you’d think they would make a stink over this.
As an FNG myself, once I learned of this, I don't care for it at all and agree we need to push to change it. With the surge in hiring, folks are looking at 5 to 6 months from indoc to their completion date. No bueno.
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Old 03-26-2022, 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by PRS Guitars
Delay raises by 3 months…12 times, apply time value of money to it, and it probably costs each new hire about $20k.

We’ve hired about 4500 LAA side since 2014, you’d think they would make a stink over this.
Then there’s the more visible delay of 401k DC, while the flow that you’re sitting next to in indoc is starting day 1. Not a great look.
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Old 03-26-2022, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Beech Dude
As an FNG myself, once I learned of this, I don't care for it at all and agree we need to push to change it. With the surge in hiring, folks are looking at 5 to 6 months from indoc to their completion date. No bueno.

Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I think it’s your scheduled, not actual completion date? In my case (the latest class) that’s 3 months.

Still should be changed though.


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Old 03-26-2022, 09:34 AM
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Scheduled is correct.
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Old 03-26-2022, 05:17 PM
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What type of flying is done out of DCA?
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Old 03-26-2022, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jetlag q
What type of flying is done out of DCA?
Mostly Part 121.
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Old 03-26-2022, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by thrust
Mostly Part 121.
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specifically I’ve seen class drops with dca 320 only. Are most of the 4day trips domestic routes?
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Old 03-27-2022, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by jetlag q
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specifically I’ve seen class drops with dca 320 only. Are most of the 4day trips domestic routes?
Yes. DCA 320 is more or less the same as the other domiciles when it comes to 4 day trips. For an international category it doesn’t appear to do a lot of international layovers, let alone international flying.
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Old 03-27-2022, 01:24 PM
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Anyone get any calls from attending WAI?
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