Longhornmaniac8

Not really. AA guys are complaining that we have benefits on three airlines as justification for why we shouldn't have priority over offline jumpseaters. If they'd like to trade their D2s and pay for my SA5X, AAC, and S3C priorities and pay, I'll make that trade.

I wholeheartedly disagree, as does just about everyone I've spoken to at a contract carrier. I'd much rather have D1s/D2s at one airline than priority slightly above buddy passes at three. 9 times out of 10, that's going to work better for you in terms of getting where you need to go. It's certainly nice during IRROPS, though, I'll grant you that.

And no one at Republic is trying to change that.

Acting like AA isn't a direct stakeholder in Republic isn't a good way to get your message across. It's pathological fiction to argue that Republic isn't more important to AA's operation than either B6 or AS in terms of contributions to the bottom line.

Moreover, don't blame the regional for playing the game that the majors created. I'd happily see AA take back all the regional flying. The fact AA pays us is another strawman and entirely irrelevant.

You're begging the question. You have to prove your assertion that being owned or not is the only metric by which to determine jumpseat policy, and that's an uphill battle considering the way AAG does it is wholly outside the norm in the industry. It's a convenient assertion for an airline that has three wholly-owned regionals, but is totally unfounded industry-wide.

To use your same argument, Republic was entirely within their right to remove any priority of AAG carriers over offline because they're not owned by Republic. That was at least one of the instances you mentioned, and once again came about after attempts to engage AAG about making changes that are mutually beneficial. The fact that you just dismiss it out of hand leads me to believe you were one of those not even willing to engage Republic in dialogue. I have no idea how long ago you were at (presumably) Envoy, but the approach taken at AAG, until extremely recently, was petulant, disrespectful, and entirely unprofessional. I'm glad to see things are slowly changing, but they're only changing because Republic has once again been forced to ask the question. Reasonable people can disagree on some things, but it's unacceptable for a professional organization to be unwilling to engage in a dialogue with their peers.

Not sure why you think I or anyone else am not doing that. I think we're all grateful things are trending in the right direction.

magnus0322

APA official position is AAG pilots should continue to receive priority on all AA branded YX JS while YX pilots don't get the same reciprocity. They also argue in order for YX to receive reciporcity they are now entitled to priority even on UA and DL branded flights. If YX can't provide that then they aren't worthy.

Oh and they talk about nonrev priority because that totally matters when talking about the JS

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Cujo665

seriously, you are welcome to priority on all your own branded flights, how many would that be again? Yeah, zero.

stop trying to inject business considerations into jumpseating. The company should NEVER view that jumpseat as a business consideration. Worse, is a pilot group trying to make the JS a business consideration. Do you not even see the nose peeking under the tent? Don’t give them any ideas.

Gone Flying

just like how now UA and DL management view the JS as a way for company business since they allow FFD carriers higher priority over OAL. /s 🙄🙄

what RAH wants is industry standard. If AAG pilots/APA are so opposed to that they should have no problem being considered OAL on RAH flights. You can’t have it both ways

magnus0322

But AAG pilots should receive priority correct? Or are you advocating for AAG pilots to be D6U on YX JS? Because if you are then I'm perfectly fine with that. We are D6U on AAG metal.

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havick206

No, an ex ENY pilot (union rep) who got fired and now flies for Omni (I think) is arguing that, just for some context.

Cyio

Man am I glad I am getting out of the AA system.

BurnerAccount69

Not toxic enough for you?

Tring

Cujo isn’t even an AA pilot, he is OAL on AA, that may give you a good perspective of what his intentions are.


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Dolphinflyer

Throw me a bone.
AA pilot and Republic pilot show up for JS on DL. It goes to Republic?
AA pilot and Republic pilot show up for JS on UAL. It goes to Republic?
AA pilots JS on AA, got that one.
AA and Republic on non-metal Feeders to UAL and DAL, any priority outside own metal?

Thanks, don't commute.