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Old 05-22-2021, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by magnus0322
Not so fun when the shoe is on the other foot is it? Don't complain about receiving EQUAL treatment

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This is ridiculous you don’t own the flying nor do you have nearly as many acft as American. Additionally you want priority on 100% of AAs acft while giving us priority on a much smaller percentage. Why is it that you think you are ENTITLED to equal treatment? Your company signed an agreement with American now the pilots have a temper tantrum and decide to unilaterally change what was agreed to? You guys are doing the exact thing that mgmt pulls with pilot contracts all the time.

If one of our pilots actually gets left behind due to this nonsense it’s going to blow up in your faces.

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Old 05-22-2021, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RIPV3
It was a civil discussion that I appreciated.



To me, just my opinion, it should go

AA

Wholly owned

Contracted/code share because you each contribute

OAL



That still would give you a lot of priority to OALs that have nothing to do with AA or its operation. As for Alaska and JB, time of check in, not priority over them. They carry AA's passengers too.



I'm just saying what sounds right to me, not taking contract or anything else into consideration. And that sounds fair, to me.
That's exactly what Republic is asking but APA said no and now you guys suffer because APA doesn't lose fights and will show us regional pilots how wrong we are

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Old 05-22-2021, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ACEssXfer
This is ridiculous you don’t own the flying nor do you have nearly as many acft as American. Additionally you want priority on 100% of AAs acft while giving us priority on a much smaller percentage. Why is it that you think you are ENTITLED to equal treatment? Your company signed an agreement with American now the pilots have a temper tantrum and decide to unilaterally change what was agreed to? You guys are doing the exact thing that mgmt pulls with pilot contracts all the time.



If one of our pilots actually gets left behind due to this nonsense it’s going to blow up in your faces.
You are getting upset at getting EQUAL treatment. When AAG owns my JS AA pilots will get priority. We extended you that courtesy for years while our pilots got left behind. APA chose this for you so redirect your anger where it belongs.

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Old 05-22-2021, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by magnus0322
That's exactly what Republic is asking but APA said no and now you guys suffer because APA doesn't lose fights and will show us regional pilots how wrong we are

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The only ones who will suffer are RAH pilots in the end.
There are way more Republic pilots enjoying AAC and jumpseat benefits on AA, than there are AA pilots relying on Republic FDJ.
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Old 05-22-2021, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Happyflyer
I am not mad. Your policy is BS unless you will give AA the JS over Delta on a DCI flight.



AA gives you FCFS and you are not reciprocating FCFS on your other planes, then saying paint color doesn’t matter when you deny AA for Delta.



AA gives you FCFS and does not stuff you below anyone except their own WO, and your response is to stuff them below others on 2/3 your fleet, and give them FCFS on 1/3.
Our AA fleet is larger than our combined UA and DL fleet.

What do AAG pilots lose by giving us an industry standard bump in priority? Nothing.

What do AAG pilots lose by the option chosen by APA? They lose the years and years of bump in priority they have received while YX pilots got left behind on AA by OAL.

You are 100% FCFS on our fleet now. We are 100% FCFS on your fleet. You can't seriously argue that you are entitled to priority on a DL and UA flight

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Old 05-22-2021, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by dera
The only ones who will suffer are RAH pilots in the end.

There are way more Republic pilots enjoying AAC and jumpseat benefits on AA, than there are AA pilots relying on Republic FDJ.
Cancel the JS agreement then. Unfortunately for APA the seats in the back and nonrev priority are AAG management policy and we'll still ride in the back as AAC. We'll still take our pilots up front even on AA flights. No AA pilot is going to dictate who rides in my JS

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Old 05-22-2021, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by magnus0322
You are getting upset at getting EQUAL treatment. When AAG owns my JS AA pilots will get priority. We extended you that courtesy for years while our pilots got left behind. APA chose this for you so redirect your anger where it belongs.

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Not upset at all. I don’t commute.
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Old 05-22-2021, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ACEssXfer
Not upset at all. I don’t commute.
Why are you against giving a bump in priority to the AA non wholly owneds? We'd still go below every single AA and wholly owned pilot. It doesn't hurt you in any way.

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Old 05-22-2021, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by magnus0322
Why are you against giving a bump in priority to the AA non wholly owneds? We'd still go below every single AA and wholly owned pilot. It doesn't hurt you in any way.

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Affecting me or not is irrelevant. What you are asking for is wrong. It’s not equal and you don’t deserve it. Once you fly exclusively for AA you can get your priority.
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Old 05-22-2021, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by magnus0322
You are getting upset at getting EQUAL treatment. When AAG owns my JS AA pilots will get priority. We extended you that courtesy for years while our pilots got left behind. APA chose this for you so redirect your anger where it belongs.

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Its not equal. RAH is not offering AA FCFS time of checkin on their whole fleet. I thought y’all were making it reciprocal?
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