Jumpseat Battle Brewing
03-22-2021, 09:44 AM
#51
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03-22-2021, 11:25 AM
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Thats the verbiage. I can dig up the gleeful comments from the last round of this if you want
03-22-2021, 01:03 PM
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“During both previous attempts by Republic pilots to establish jumpseat priority, numerous AA, PSA, Piedmont, and Envoy pilots were harmed by being denied travel on Republic Airways aircraft operating American Eagle-branded flights”
Thats the verbiage. I can dig up the gleeful comments from the last round of this if you want
Thats the verbiage. I can dig up the gleeful comments from the last round of this if you want
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03-22-2021, 01:40 PM
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How many is numerous? Or was it just a few rogue CA? You really think if the number was as large as you insinuate with your strong language that there would still be a JS agreement for YX on AA? Look at all the heartburn asking why AA gets priority but YX does not is causing
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03-22-2021, 02:43 PM
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Well that's a straw man if I've ever seen one.
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03-22-2021, 02:51 PM
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Def:an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument.
I am not misrepresenting anything and your argument is one that was known when the deal was made. I have no side in this as it doesnt effect me in the least, but that pilot group did circumvent APA from what has been posted on here.
03-22-2021, 03:05 PM
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Care to explain why as opposed to just tossing out "straw man" and leaving?
Def:an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument.
I am not misrepresenting anything and your argument is one that was known when the deal was made. I have no side in this as it doesnt effect me in the least, but that pilot group did circumvent APA from what has been posted on here.
Def:an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument.
I am not misrepresenting anything and your argument is one that was known when the deal was made. I have no side in this as it doesnt effect me in the least, but that pilot group did circumvent APA from what has been posted on here.
I have no dog in this either, but I did used to work for YX. You misrepresent that they didn't go to APA. They did. APA has straight ignored them. That's part of the straw man.
Part 2: yes an agreement was signed, but did it include AA automatically being checked in for the JS 24 hours prior just by listing while YX has to choose AAC or D6 and make a best guess?
This is actually a very nuanced complaint.
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03-22-2021, 03:24 PM
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I have no dog in this either, but I did used to work for YX. You misrepresent that they didn't go to APA. They did. APA has straight ignored them. That's part of the straw man.
Part 2: yes an agreement was signed, but did it include AA automatically being checked in for the JS 24 hours prior just by listing while YX has to choose AAC or D6 and make a best guess?
This is actually a very nuanced complaint.
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Part 2: yes an agreement was signed, but did it include AA automatically being checked in for the JS 24 hours prior just by listing while YX has to choose AAC or D6 and make a best guess?
This is actually a very nuanced complaint.
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As to your second point, I have no idea.
I guess my issue with this approach is that a contract or agreement should mean something. If we can just up and change agreements at will, or worse choose to ignore said agreement at will, they will forever lose their power.
03-22-2021, 03:28 PM
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Did they ignore them or did they disagree with it? If they flat out ignored them, well I don’t know what to say. Does the agreement have an amendable date attached to it?
As to your second point, I have no idea.
I guess my issue with this approach is that a contract or agreement should mean something. If we can just up and change agreements at will, or worse choose to ignore said agreement at will, they will forever lose their power.
As to your second point, I have no idea.
I guess my issue with this approach is that a contract or agreement should mean something. If we can just up and change agreements at will, or worse choose to ignore said agreement at will, they will forever lose their power.
If there is no amendable date attached are you just supposed to suffer in perpetuity? Even if the guy/guys that signed off on it don't have to live under it anymore?
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