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Old 05-05-2021, 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by sanicom3205
Under your proposal, AA pilots would get priority on less than, or about, 50% of RAH operated flights (AA flights operated by RAH). RAH pilots would get priority on 100% of AA flights. How in the world is that reciprocal?

Stop using the term reciprocal. You cannot offer us what you are demanding of us.
As of right RPA has priority on 0.0% of AA flights while they have priority on 50% of RPA flights. How in the world is that reciprocal?
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Old 05-05-2021, 05:31 AM
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As of right RPA has priority on 0.0% of AA flights while they have priority on 50% of RPA flights. How in the world is that reciprocal?
Because its not a RPA flight, it’s an American flight that you are contract to operate for American. When I book a reservation from PHL-PVD let’s say, I’m booking on my company’s network on our system. When it comes to the jumpseat, you guys obviously have the priority there, but not a chance that an offline guy goes ahead of an AA guy on an American Eagle flight. That’s what you guys just don’t seem to understand. And if you think your Captains jumpseat ownership that you guys keep talking about is going to dictate priority in the American Airlines network, you’re delusional. You can change your FOM all day long, it doesn’t dictate anything to AA. you start turning away AA guys for offline pilots on AA flights, it’s going to escalate very quickly.
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Old 05-05-2021, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by El Peso
Because its not a RPA flight, it’s an American flight that you are contract to operate for American. When I book a reservation from PHL-PVD let’s say, I’m booking on my company’s network on our system. When it comes to the jumpseat, you guys obviously have the priority there, but not a chance that an offline guy goes ahead of an AA guy on an American Eagle flight. That’s what you guys just don’t seem to understand. And if you think your Captains jumpseat ownership that you guys keep talking about is going to dictate priority in the American Airlines network, you’re delusional. You can change your FOM all day long, it doesn’t dictate anything to AA. you start turning away AA guys for offline pilots on AA flights, it’s going to escalate very quickly.
Yes, you are correct. The back of the plane is an AA Regional flight.

"When it comes to the jumpseat, you guys obviously have the priority there, but not a chance that an offline guy goes ahead of an AA guy on an American Eagle flight."

You do not get to dictate that. The cockpit is 100% RPA.

"You can change your FOM all day long, it doesn’t dictate anything to AA. you start turning away AA guys for offline pilots on AA flights, it’s going to escalate very quickly."

How? Are you going to lower our JS priority too? ....ohh wait
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Old 05-05-2021, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by El Peso
Because its not a RPA flight, it’s an American flight that you are contract to operate for American. When I book a reservation from PHL-PVD let’s say, I’m booking on my company’s network on our system.
This keeps getting brought up, but I'm not following what it has to do with the issue. AA contracts a flight to another airline (with defenders of the policy being careful to emphasize that it's an OAL) OK, then what? What does it have to do with jumpseat priority?

The question was how it's reciprocal that the pilots from one those airlines have priority on half of the flights from the other, in exchange for no priority on any of the flights the other way around. And it has not been answered.
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Old 05-05-2021, 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by El Peso
Because its not a RPA flight, it’s an American flight that you are contract to operate for American. When I book a reservation from PHL-PVD let’s say, I’m booking on my company’s network on our system. When it comes to the jumpseat, you guys obviously have the priority there, but not a chance that an offline guy goes ahead of an AA guy on an American Eagle flight. That’s what you guys just don’t seem to understand. And if you think your Captains jumpseat ownership that you guys keep talking about is going to dictate priority in the American Airlines network, you’re delusional. You can change your FOM all day long, it doesn’t dictate anything to AA. you start turning away AA guys for offline pilots on AA flights, it’s going to escalate very quickly.

Who’s Jumpseat is Republic’s Jumpseat? If it belongs to Republic it sounds like everything you said doesn’t matter. The FOM is legally binding document NOT the AA reservation system. I know you’re smarter than this.


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Old 05-05-2021, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by vessbot
This keeps getting brought up, but I'm not following what it has to do with the issue. AA contracts a flight to another airline (with defenders of the policy being careful to emphasize that it's an OAL) OK, then what? What does it have to do with jumpseat priority?

The question was how it's reciprocal that the pilots from one those airlines have priority on half of the flights from the other, in exchange for no priority on any of the flights the other way around. And it has not been answered.
If you guys truly had such a hard on for reciprocal, you’d be asking for priority on half our flights. So drop the act, it’s not reciprocity that you’re after. It’s priority on every major carrier. And it stems from the fact that you guys have always thought you’re the all important regional, a cut above the rest, in some limbo between mainline and regional. It’s kinda funny
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Old 05-05-2021, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by sanicom3205
If you guys truly had such a hard on for reciprocal, you’d be asking for priority on half our flights. So drop the act, it’s not reciprocity that you’re after. It’s priority on every major carrier. And it stems from the fact that you guys have always thought you’re the all important regional, a cut above the rest, in some limbo between mainline and regional. It’s kinda funny

Sorry it’s hard for you to believe some of us have principle, you just have entitlement.


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Originally Posted by sanicom3205
If you guys truly had such a hard on for reciprocal, you’d be asking for priority on half our flights. So drop the act, it’s not reciprocity that you’re after. It’s priority on every major carrier. And it stems from the fact that you guys have always thought you’re the all important regional, a cut above the rest, in some limbo between mainline and regional. It’s kinda funny
I thought Skywest was the legacy regional
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Originally Posted by sanicom3205
If you guys truly had such a hard on for reciprocal, you’d be asking for priority on half our flights. So drop the act, it’s not reciprocity that you’re after. It’s priority on every major carrier. And it stems from the fact that you guys have always thought you’re the all important regional, a cut above the rest, in some limbo between mainline and regional. It’s kinda funny
Sorry, but that is just not a thing. The only people who ever thought that are current/ex Envoy guys who see Republic as superior for some reason. But that is a you problem not an us problem.
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Old 05-05-2021, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by sanicom3205
If you guys truly had such a hard on for reciprocal, you’d be asking for priority on half our flights. So drop the act, it’s not reciprocity that you’re after. It’s priority on every major carrier. And it stems from the fact that you guys have always thought you’re the all important regional, a cut above the rest, in some limbo between mainline and regional. It’s kinda funny
I'm from another airline network, so not a part of "you guys." Anyway, you're talking about Republic's proposed system of both airlines having priority on each other. That's not what my post is about. My post is about the current system, and how it could (not) be considered reciprocal.
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