Jumpseat Battle Brewing
06-15-2021, 03:33 AM
#1191
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Then it should definitely be Own Metal and OAL for Everyone else.
That would be the most fair for EVERYONE right?
I mean if we are not going to bring in company benefit into the discussion, then why give priority to wholy owned? That is a company benefit right? One that you do not want to have...
(BTW... Before everyone shows up at my doorstep with pitchforks, I am not advocating this...)
That would be the most fair for EVERYONE right?
I mean if we are not going to bring in company benefit into the discussion, then why give priority to wholy owned? That is a company benefit right? One that you do not want to have...
(BTW... Before everyone shows up at my doorstep with pitchforks, I am not advocating this...)
You’re either an AAG pilot or you’re not. If not, you’re OAL on AAG branded flights.
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06-15-2021, 07:03 AM
#1192
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The WO are own company. AAG owns 4 airlines. None of the WO are subsidiaries of AA, they are all subsidiaries (WO) of AAG. If it’s an AA/AE/AC branded flight, then AAG owns the flight regardless who’s operating it. You get priority on your own metal, after that it’s AAG’s priority list. AAG pilots come first, each of the 4 getting priority over the other three on their individual metal, just exactly like you do. After the AAG pilots, everybody else is OAL on the AAG branded flights.
You’re either an AAG pilot or you’re not. If not, you’re OAL on AAG branded flights.
You’re either an AAG pilot or you’re not. If not, you’re OAL on AAG branded flights.
Anybody want tell Cujo the change has already taken place? I kinda feel bad for him now.
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06-15-2021, 08:40 AM
#1193
Line Holder
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Since DL and UA give us a priority bump over some OAL on their flights they receive a bump in priority in return ahead of other OAL on our respective DL and UA flights. Since you at AA have decided not to you’re now simply OAL like everyone else.
06-15-2021, 10:29 AM
#1194
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and the 45% of RAH pilots that do DL and UA flying making money for the competition? You want priority on AA for the direct competition? Yet, AAG pilots only get priority on 50% RAH planes in AA paint?
you want to treat one OAL differently than other OAL? No wonder the other carrier pilots are ticked. Keep the commercial interests off the Jumpseat, it’s a pilot benefit not a company benefit.
Own metal
Own company
OAL
its not difficult.
want the better Jumpseat priority, take the payout and go to a WO.
you want to treat one OAL differently than other OAL? No wonder the other carrier pilots are ticked. Keep the commercial interests off the Jumpseat, it’s a pilot benefit not a company benefit.
Own metal
Own company
OAL
its not difficult.
want the better Jumpseat priority, take the payout and go to a WO.
American owns republic airways holdings so the pilots working different codeshare do help out with that American profit sharing.
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06-15-2021, 02:03 PM
#1195
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The WO are own company. AAG owns 4 airlines. None of the WO are subsidiaries of AA, they are all subsidiaries (WO) of AAG. If it’s an AA/AE/AC branded flight, then AAG owns the flight regardless who’s operating it. You get priority on your own metal, after that it’s AAG’s priority list. AAG pilots come first, each of the 4 getting priority over the other three on their individual metal, just exactly like you do. After the AAG pilots, everybody else is OAL on the AAG branded flights.
You’re either an AAG pilot or you’re not. If not, you’re OAL on AAG branded flights.
You’re either an AAG pilot or you’re not. If not, you’re OAL on AAG branded flights.
06-16-2021, 11:54 AM
#1196
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Can you explain to me just who this "AAG pilot" is? Last time I checked AAG was a holding company. They don't operate airplanes. They own companies that own airplanes. I know AA pilots, Envoy pilots etc but no AAG pilots. AA might be the biggest, but end of the day just another owned airline nothing special. AAG will use Republic as long as it is profitable and they will decide how things will be done. If it affects the bottom line they will mandate changes. I cannot believe you people spend so much time on this crap when often there are 200-250 DC9-10 sized airliners flying mainline routes flown by the "peanuts for pilots" group. What's next, narrow body flying transferred to the likes of Mesa? Who thought 40 years ago there would be the 175 or 900. I bet dougie bows down every night to his shrine of Frank Lorenzo with a boner trying to figure out how to pull that off.
06-16-2021, 12:13 PM
#1197
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Can you explain to me just who this "AAG pilot" is? Last time I checked AAG was a holding company. They don't operate airplanes. They own companies that own airplanes. I know AA pilots, Envoy pilots etc but no AAG pilots. AA might be the biggest, but end of the day just another owned airline nothing special. AAG will use Republic as long as it is profitable and they will decide how things will be done. If it affects the bottom line they will mandate changes. I cannot believe you people spend so much time on this crap when often there are 200-250 DC9-10 sized airliners flying mainline routes flown by the "peanuts for pilots" group. What's next, narrow body flying transferred to the likes of Mesa? Who thought 40 years ago there would be the 175 or 900. I bet dougie bows down every night to his shrine of Frank Lorenzo with a boner trying to figure out how to pull that off.
06-16-2021, 12:17 PM
#1198
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06-16-2021, 12:51 PM
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