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03-27-2021, 01:52 PM

#111

JohnnyBekkestad

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dolphinflyer

Throw me a bone.
AA pilot and Republic pilot show up for JS on DL. It goes to Republic?
AA pilot and Republic pilot show up for JS on UAL. It goes to Republic?
AA pilots JS on AA, got that one.
AA and Republic on non-metal Feeders to UAL and DAL, any priority outside own metal?

Thanks, don't commute.

Let look at that one shall we... Because you simplified it too much to fit your point
DL flight
DL Mainline
Endeavor
Republic/SkyWest/Mesa (They all fly DL metal)
Everyone else

DL flight on a regional
Own metal - Endeavor/Republic/SkyWest/Mesa
DL Mainline
NON Own metal
- Endeavor
- Republic/SkyWest/Mesa
Everyone else

UA flight
UA Mainline
CommuteAir
Republic/SkyWest/Mesa/Air Wisconsin (Honestly don't know where AW goes)
Everyone else

UA flight on a regional
Own metal - CA/AW/Republic/SkyWest/Mesa
UA Mainline
NON Own metal
- CA/AW
- Republic/SkyWest/Mesa
Everyone else

AA flight
AA Mainline
Envoy/PSA/Piedmont
Everyone else

AA flight on a regional
Own metal - Envoy/PSA/Piedmont/Republic/SkyWest/Mesa
AA Mainline
Everyone else

The proposal from Republic (whom i am NOT working for) seems to be (FOR JS ONLY - NOT IN THE BACK)
AA flight
AA Mainline
Envoy/PSA/Piedmont
Republic/SkyWest/Mesa
Everyone else

AA flight on a regional
Own metal - Envoy/PSA/Piedmont/Republic/SkyWest/Mesa
AA Mainline
NON Own metal
- Envoy/PSA/Piedmont
- Republic/SkyWest/Mesa
Everyone else

03-27-2021, 02:02 PM

#112

Gone Flying

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyBekkestad

just a slight correction
UA flight
1) UA Mainline
2) CommuteAir/Air Wisconsin/GoJet
3) Republic/SkyWest/Mesa
4) Everyone else

also Mesa does not fly for DL

but excellent summary

03-27-2021, 02:08 PM

#113

JohnnyBekkestad

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gone Flying

just a slight correction
UA flight
1) UA Mainline
2) CommuteAir/Air Wisconsin/GoJet
3) Republic/SkyWest/Mesa
4) Everyone else

also Mesa does not fly for DL

but excellent summary

Oh shoot, thanks for the reminder, i completely forgot about G7...
I could add a summary about AS, Horizon and OO. But that would really **** of some people...

03-27-2021, 02:29 PM

#114

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Originally Posted by JohnnyBekkestad

Oh shoot, thanks for the reminder, i completely forgot about G7...
I could add a summary about AS, Horizon and OO. But that would really **** of some people...

no worries, and yeah, I’m pretty sure OO goes ahead of OAL on Alaska, which very much weakens their gripe if their union did in fact send a letter of protest to APA.

03-27-2021, 02:46 PM

#115

ElCaribe

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I have to side with RAH on this one. I’m not sure why AA pilots care so much. They’re not being affected in any way by what RAH is asking. At Delta all the DCI carriers get priority over OAL.

But it does beg the question: will this give RAH JS priority on AA over OO and Mesa? If so then I understand AA’s position.

Last edited by ElCaribe; 03-27-2021 at 03:09 PM.

03-27-2021, 03:41 PM

#116

Longhornmaniac8

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ElCaribe

No. RAH is lobbying to put all contract carriers on the same tier, by time of check-in.

03-27-2021, 08:32 PM

#117

magnus0322

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ElCaribe

YX, OO, YV are the non wholly owned American Eagle carriers and we all get treated as OAL on any AA or American Eagle JS unless it is our own metal. We want AA to give all of us priority over OAL since we do American Eagle flights. Essentially the same deal DL has with the Delta Connection carriers and UA has with United Express carriers

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03-27-2021, 11:30 PM

#118

Swedish Blender

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rickair7777

As teamsters, they probably get a discount on UPS shipments that APA doesn't.

Then they better send their stuff by ground. But then again, employees don't get a discount so maybe Republic should ask for that too.

03-28-2021, 02:21 AM

#119

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Quote:

Originally Posted by greatmovieistar

And that's the issue with non commuters getting involved in the issue. No matter how well you try to explain it, they just never get it. Even after 10 pages worth of posts.

just move to base son

03-29-2021, 07:27 AM

#120

Cujo665

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Originally Posted by Tring

Cujo I believe I asked you this over a year ago and you never answered me so I’ll try again. Do you think AA should be OAL on AA RAH Jumpseats? If you’re gonna stay consistent with your argument you will have to say yes.

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Why would I "HAVE" to say no? Your argument makes no sense. When you sell your own tickets on your own branded flights come talk to me.

You ONLY exist because they contract you. They OWN that flight and every seat on it. RAH goes ahead on their own metal, after that AAG should come before OAL on AA/AE branded flights.... that's exactly how it is.

Stop putting business interests into the jumpseat.

Last edited by Cujo665; 03-29-2021 at 07:47 AM.