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Old 08-18-2019, 08:42 AM
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Is BOS a small base? Only 737? Any rumors on growth there? Interested in any general info on that base from a new hire perpective. Thanks
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Small base. Only 737s.

Only fly to the hubs from Boston, except for a few random islands on the weekends so i doubt there is any growth planned.
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I'm a new hire based in BOS. For what it's worth, the chief told us there is a small growth (I think he said around 3 or 4%). They are trying to be a reliable base to get more flying. PM me if you have any other questions.
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AA is actually #2 in Boston behind JetBlue right now. They have around 1/3 of the total pax while we sit around 20%. Delta is at 15%. Delta has announced a fairly large Boston increase however.

AA lost a lot of their Boston pax to JetBlue over the years. They just couldn't compete with their much higher costs. I don't blame them for cutting back. But it does suck for those who are up there.

It does seem like there aren't that many originators up there so no need to base more crew. Splitting the 737 and A32X fleets up also doesn't help. If we had a single type narrowbody I think we'd have more bases.

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AA is actually #2 in Boston behind JetBlue right now. They have around 1/3 of the total pax while we sit around 20%. Delta is at 15%. Delta has announced a fairly large Boston increase however.

AA lost a lot of their Boston pax to JetBlue over the years. They just couldn't compete with their much higher costs. I don't blame them for cutting back. But it does suck for those who are up there.

It does seem like there aren't that many originators up there so no need to base more crew. Splitting the 737 and A32X fleets up also doesn't help. If we had a single type narrowbody I think we'd have more bases.


Wow I’m surprised delta only has 15% traffic in Boston. Their operation up there looks much bigger than ours. Are those numbers current?
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Anybody know if the BOS shortcall guys get tagged a lot to cover other 73 flying at nearby bases? Thanks
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Wow I’m surprised delta only has 15% traffic in Boston. Their operation up there looks much bigger than ours. Are those numbers current?
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That doesn't include RJs though, just mainline.
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I wonder what Delta’s margins are in JFK. Maybe there’s something to the Vasu theory of having a Europe gateway with less competition. In other words, might Boston be to Delta what Philly is to us? Or if not now, in the future?
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I wonder what Delta’s margins are in JFK. Maybe there’s something to the Vasu theory of having a Europe gateway with less competition. In other words, might Boston be to Delta what Philly is to us? Or if not now, in the future?
My personal thought is Delta is trying to run over JetBlue in JFK and BOS while also taking us on.

We're easy to beat but JetBlue does have a loyal following and free WiFi. When Delta ramps that up I'm guessing you'll see them go after JetBlue pretty aggressively. They're playing chess and are just in the opening rounds moving pawns for now. Meanwhile Doug and Vasu are playing checkers sucking on their thumbs.
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