AA Non-Rev travel
#51
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As a commuter, I m not flying to Disney. But it is the cost of business right? So they delay or cancel the International flight because I can't get to work. Or they can make accommodations to get me to work. Our "prudent policy" says I just need one back up flight. So if it were to mean much for management, I would get the Jumpiest on any route flown by outsourced companies. They don't, so they get the consequences.
#52
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Yep it sucks. But if you miss your trip it will ultimately come down on you. Which is why I’m very conservative when i plan my commute to work.
#53
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agree, just pointing out the stupidity of getting the regional crew members to work while leaving behind the mainline guys. I guess that Dayton to CLT is super important to crew.
#55
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If it wasn’t important to get that “Regional Crew” to work an American (Eagle) flight... those jobs would have been at mainline?
#56
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Our nonrev benefits are what they are. It definitely wasn't a factor for me when choosing a company to work for. It's icing on the cake or a sometimes very frustrating experience at any company. Nonrev benefits are probably not what they used to be 20+ years ago anywhere anymore. Airlines have mastered the art of filling airplanes by overselling seats. Would you rather work for a company making money with a crappy nonrev program or a company that flies empty airplanes and is bankrupt?
It's up to you to decide whether flying standby is worth it. If it's just you or just you and a sig other, nonreving is a lot easier, but if you are dragging a family of 5 or 6 and a bunch of small kids to the airport in hopes to get on a flight, you'll end up miserable and possibly divorced. My wife hates flying standby. She won't do it with the kids. We have literally left our house checked into a flight for a short weekend trip as the first D2's on the priority list. There were 23 open seats and by the time we got to the airport less than an hour later the flight had 12 seats left and two large families had bumped us down to 10+ on the list because they were D2T's. We weren't all going to get on as D2's so our option was to quickly rebook as D1's, check in again and waste D1 passes in hopes to get on or turn around and go home. We turned around and that was when my wife said, "This is the last time I ever do this $#%@!!!". We do get 20% off revenue tickets.
The problem I do have with our Travel Planner system is that we cannot see nonrev thru-passengers until they get assigned a seat on their originating flight and by the time they pop up on the list, you are often getting off the airport shuttle with the family. If we could see that info earlier, I would either not book the flight or I wouldn't even leave my house. That is the frustrating part. Last-minute, mysteriouslyvanishing seats are usually rebooks/missed flights.
It's up to you to decide whether flying standby is worth it. If it's just you or just you and a sig other, nonreving is a lot easier, but if you are dragging a family of 5 or 6 and a bunch of small kids to the airport in hopes to get on a flight, you'll end up miserable and possibly divorced. My wife hates flying standby. She won't do it with the kids. We have literally left our house checked into a flight for a short weekend trip as the first D2's on the priority list. There were 23 open seats and by the time we got to the airport less than an hour later the flight had 12 seats left and two large families had bumped us down to 10+ on the list because they were D2T's. We weren't all going to get on as D2's so our option was to quickly rebook as D1's, check in again and waste D1 passes in hopes to get on or turn around and go home. We turned around and that was when my wife said, "This is the last time I ever do this $#%@!!!". We do get 20% off revenue tickets.
The problem I do have with our Travel Planner system is that we cannot see nonrev thru-passengers until they get assigned a seat on their originating flight and by the time they pop up on the list, you are often getting off the airport shuttle with the family. If we could see that info earlier, I would either not book the flight or I wouldn't even leave my house. That is the frustrating part. Last-minute, mysteriouslyvanishing seats are usually rebooks/missed flights.
Last edited by TankerDriver; 06-15-2019 at 04:41 PM.
#57
You can see D1Ts/D2Ts/etc who have listed for a flight more than 24 hours out via the JetNet travel planner. Can help manage expectations a little.
You’re correct that they don’t show up on a flight’s priority list until they clear onto their original flight. It also won’t show folks who are rolling over from previous flights until they do so. It’s mind-boggling how many braindead moron pax buy tickets and then don’t bother to show up for their 0500 flight to grandma’s, causing a cascade of revenue standbys and oversales that make non-revving a challenge.
I’d love for us to distance ourselves from the other employee groups in the non-rev hierarchy, but I don’t see that happening any time soon.
You’re correct that they don’t show up on a flight’s priority list until they clear onto their original flight. It also won’t show folks who are rolling over from previous flights until they do so. It’s mind-boggling how many braindead moron pax buy tickets and then don’t bother to show up for their 0500 flight to grandma’s, causing a cascade of revenue standbys and oversales that make non-revving a challenge.
I’d love for us to distance ourselves from the other employee groups in the non-rev hierarchy, but I don’t see that happening any time soon.
#58
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I'm surprised the company hasn't done it on their own initiative. What costs the company more? A CSR's child that can't make it to spring break or a pilot that can't make it to work?
#60
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Agree. make all pilots commuting to and from work A higher priority than an D1, and only when commuting.
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