PRS Guitars

No, they lose it when they turn 24, I think they have to be in school to keep it after 18, not sure.

I’m in agreement with Frip on this and will add one more good reason. If the family was put at a lower level, you’d see more and more employees traveling with them (when they weren’t going on the trip) just to get them at the higher level. Adding 1 more non rev to the flight and wasting that employees time.

Name User

Way bigger fish to fry IMO. Out of my commute city I took screen captures of a family who had listed and checked in for three different sequential flights on the same city pair. At least for first one, they never even bothered to show up. IMO if you list and check in but don't show up, you should lose travel privileges for a month. This totally screws over those who would potentially try for the flight but see they have zero chance (assuming you show up).

For the courtesy of others listings should be canceled xx hours ahead of time if not used.

full of luv

So this is basically the same at Delta... same status (including DOH) until 18 (or 23 if full time student). After that, they go at lesser status (same as retirees but generally with much later DOH) UNLESS traveling with employee then they get to go at employee's status.

Frip

For boarding priority, kids retain the same status until 2359 on their 24th birthday, and their status as a student or not no longer matters.

For the IRS at 18 or at 23 if a full time student they are considered “dependents”. After age 18 if not enrolled full time or after 23 in any case then the employee is liable for federal income taxes on the “Imputed Income” - which is some mystical number representing the “value of standby travel”.

Dependents do not have “priority over an active employee” except by virtue of check in time which is a free-for-all that IMO needs to be changed to Company Seniority Date or by the use of a D1- which the active employee has equal opportunity to exercise.

So far as the multiple listings, yes, it is against the rules and yes it is also unnecessary as one can be rolled over to the next flight or a different routing or even a different destination indefinitely, and yes any listing that is not going to be used should be cancelled and yes violators of the rules should be dealt with accordingly.

I want to believe that most of the double listing is done out of ignorance and a feeling of being proactive rather than out of malice, which is no excuse.

How do you get a half million people to all read understand and follow the rules?

dera

There needs to be AAG travel benefit police, who monitors this kind of abuse. But at the same time - they need to monitor the gate agent n*zis who abuse their powers too. "I'm not going to reroute you through XXX leaving in an hour because there is a direct flight in 8 hours from here so I'm just going to roll you over to that one, even though there are 50 seats via XXX and the direct flight is oversold by 20".
Some stations are better than others, but one is consistently, and by far, the worst.

AAfng

Doesnt matter because between the oversold flights, cancelled flights, and positive space regional crewmembers there is virtually zero non-rev benefit (unless you count tues-thurs in the winter)

flyinawa

I dunno....just UM NonRev’ed my 9 y/o out to grandma’s house and she got a seat in FC. My opinion of NonRev is usually based on city pairs.

biigD

Same with me. My wife flies a round trip to various places every month or two. There’s stress when the load factors are high, but she’s good about picking flights and even gets FC from time to time.

Is it great? Not always. But it’s not worthless either.

dera

Positive space regional crewmembers? That's the smallest group of people ever known to man in the AA system.

TankerDriver

Had 4 Eagle pilots on D1's ahead of me and the wife returning from a European destination last week. Smallest group or not, they're obviously using the benefit just like everyone else. We barely made it on. That's ok. I'm sure one day I'll want to D1 the family to Chattanooga and get to nonrev on some Eagle metal.