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Old 04-27-2019, 03:07 PM
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Any good information on what specific dates these aircraft start leaving the fleet?

As in, I believe 6 190s leave this fall all at once (Sep), but when it comes to the 75/76 fleet, the reduction plan timeline seems a little more vague?

Last, which base will the 76 officially retire in? PHL?

The 75? MIA?
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Old 04-27-2019, 06:58 PM
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Official fleet plan is released quarterly in SEC filings. One was just released yesterday:

https://americanairlines.gcs-web.com...7-bbff8f3eab9c

Search document for "fleet update".

To answer your question, down to 24 757s by end of 2019 but those 24 stay through 2021. They are needed for certain airports and routes where other aircraft can't perform the way a 757 does.

767.... 24 currently, down to 15 by end of 2019, down to 6 by end of 2020 and all gone by 2021 as they are replaced by 787-8.

Currently there are 20 787-8 and that will increase to 42 by 2021.
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Old 04-27-2019, 07:12 PM
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Many of your questions are answered in the Fleet Update from the first quarter 8-K report, that was just released yesterday, on the 26th.

190: Fleet is currently 20 aircraft. 6 retire during this year, 14 aircraft in the fleet by end of 2019. The remaining 14 aircraft all retire next year, zero aircraft in the 190 fleet at the end of 2020.

763: Fleet is currently 24 aircraft. 9 retire during this year, 15 aircraft in the fleet by the end of 2019. 9 additional aircraft retire in 2020, leaving 6 aircraft in the fleet by the end of 2020. The remaining 6 aircraft all retire the following year, zero aircraft in the 763 fleet at the end of 2021.

752: Fleet is currently 34 aircraft. 10 retire during this year, 24 aircraft in the fleet by the end of 2019. No additional 752 retirements are planned at this time, leaving the 752 fleet at 24 aircraft through at least the end of 2021.
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Old 04-28-2019, 04:22 AM
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Wow, i didnt realize we were doubling the 787 fleet. Also looks like the growth will be in airbuses 319/320/321 vs 737 in the next couple of years. Is that will junior cpt will be?
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Thank you all for the replies.

As for the 75/76, any known specific dates for individual aircraft parking?

Last base(s)? Where will the aircraft/bid retire? Will it be PHL for the 76 and MIA for the 75? Given that, I’m currently guessing JFK 76 bid will close first?
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I thought JFK 767 was already announced to close. I thought it was this fall. DFW 767 isn't doing much that couldn't be covered by the 737 or 320. It looks like Lima is the only real international destination left. PHX 767 is supposed to close after the Hawaii flying moves over to the 321 NEO. This latest fleet update looks like 5 321 NEOs slipped from this year to next year, I didn't see any mention of that though.
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Originally Posted by viper548
I thought JFK 767 was already announced to close. I thought it was this fall. DFW 767 isn't doing much that couldn't be covered by the 737 or 320. It looks like Lima is the only real international destination left. PHX 767 is supposed to close after the Hawaii flying moves over to the 321 NEO. This latest fleet update looks like 5 321 NEOs slipped from this year to next year, I didn't see any mention of that though.
What’s interesting is if you look at the 75/76 manning in DFW on the last vacancy outlook (the 3 month look), it actually goes up a little...(in contrast to the decrease in planes) it must be noted that that can change on the next vacancy bid/outlook. I just found it odd.
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What’s interesting is if you look at the 75/76 manning in DFW on the last vacancy outlook (the 3 month look), it actually goes up a little...(in contrast to the decrease in planes) it must be noted that that can change on the next vacancy bid/outlook. I just found it odd.
Maybe they're assuming some of the -80 guys will displace into it and they don't want to do a big secondary displacement? I look through the 3xp every now and then and I thought I saw some trips going to Europe thru PHL. Maybe they're planning more stuff like that over the summer.
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767 dies in PHL, 757 in DFW. LGA(763)/PHX(757Classic) gone by EOY19. MIA and DFW will split the 752 flying until 2021, then it’s only in DFW.

This from multiple CKA. One 757 base in DFW until 2025 from crew manning. Sooooo, IOW, SFO767 reopening next week


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