737 vs 320 for New Hire
#31
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Even ORD is a commute? That's a different equation. Which is a better deal for you? Holding a line, and making more money, vs sitting SC when both are commutes is a different answer for different people.
#32
The company 3XP (on aapilots) usually updates within a week after the Final Vacancy Award. So probably this week. Just realize that that product includes all pilots, even inactive, so it’s not as accurate. The APA 3XP just updates after each monthly schedule bid I believe.
#33
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#35
I wanted the bus so bad in training as CLT only has the bus as an option as of now. The person 1 number senior to me in class got the last bus slot. I was sick to my stomach. I did not want the 737. Turns out it was the best thing to happen. All things being equal, give me the bus but I was able to move to a domicile that made commuting and QOL much easier (being DCA based now) than it would if I chose to stick with the bus.
So for the first 12-24 months of your AA career, do you value QOL or airplane type more? That's not a rhetorical question as everyone has a different answer.
So for the first 12-24 months of your AA career, do you value QOL or airplane type more? That's not a rhetorical question as everyone has a different answer.
#39
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Some commuters tend to bid all nighters vs the early/late long two days. Those touch four days with commuting vs the three day impact of all nighters. All nighters have a smaller impact on your time at home.
So when someone talks about how quickly someone is holding a line the type of line matters. In LGA a couple of years ago the junior line holders were holding all nighters. Which was fine for some commuters. I spoke with a former FO that had upgraded. Mid pack Captain now. He actually bids all nighters higher than most of his peers - "after years of international flying an all nighter is no big deal" and I get a lot of the days off that I want."
So when someone talks about how quickly someone is holding a line the type of line matters. In LGA a couple of years ago the junior line holders were holding all nighters. Which was fine for some commuters. I spoke with a former FO that had upgraded. Mid pack Captain now. He actually bids all nighters higher than most of his peers - "after years of international flying an all nighter is no big deal" and I get a lot of the days off that I want."
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Although I now prefer the Bus to the 737, I’m glad for the time I spent on the 737 and all the various aircraft I’ve flown here. New hires need to remember that even if the aircraft/base you get isn’t the one you want, it’s going to be very temporary.
While going through recurrent last month an instructor gave us old guys something to think about. He said all of you that have less than 5 years to go, raise your hand. There were quite a few. He said “Just think, if you’re pass riding a year or two after your retirement, the captain on your flight might not be on the property right now.”
I was the baby of my class at Piedmont, so wouldn’t have a choice. I wanted a F-28 F/O slot anywhere so I wouldn’t have to go to Piedmont’s infamous 727 F/E school. Of course I was assigned 727 F/E and it was the hardest I’ve ever worked in a school. But it was a great education and I’m so glad I had the experience.
Welcome to all our new guys, and enjoy the ride.
While going through recurrent last month an instructor gave us old guys something to think about. He said all of you that have less than 5 years to go, raise your hand. There were quite a few. He said “Just think, if you’re pass riding a year or two after your retirement, the captain on your flight might not be on the property right now.”
I was the baby of my class at Piedmont, so wouldn’t have a choice. I wanted a F-28 F/O slot anywhere so I wouldn’t have to go to Piedmont’s infamous 727 F/E school. Of course I was assigned 727 F/E and it was the hardest I’ve ever worked in a school. But it was a great education and I’m so glad I had the experience.
Welcome to all our new guys, and enjoy the ride.
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