ColtF15

All,

Thanks. This really helps in my decision making and planning. I am always impressed and humbled by the outpouring of support from APC.

wiz5422

Thanks for the info, anyone else care to fill in the "not sure" or add any additional info.

Sliceback

MIA hotels get expensive ($150-200) in season. Crash pads at the fuel farm between the approach ends of 27 and 30. A bus stop is about 1/4-1/2 mile away. Or cab/uber.

ORD has crash pads. UA. Used to be one metro stop from ORD.

JFK has crash pads across the highway from the long term parking lot.

LGA has crash pads across the highway.

MIA/JFK/LGA - you're getting wet if it's raining due to the walk. Most cabs don't want to do a 1/2-mile fare.

Sliceback

Caveats - some bid statuses have almost zero influx, or outflow, over the latest three month period posted. A lot of the junior bid statuses have 50-60 and the top has 75 guys leaving over the next 3 months.

Historically LGA and MIA have always been junior which means movement at the bottom. LAX is this recent hiring cycle has joined the crowd.

Some exceptions, that are coming to an end, are PHL 190 and DFW S80. If you want either of those bases you need to be prepared to bid them. DFW S80 training is supposedly finished. There's always the crazy chance, very slim, that it opens up again.

PHL 190 - lots of junior guys and at some point, as the fleet draws down, the opportunity for rapid advancement might come to a screeching halt so some caution is advised if you commute and think that's the quickest way to hold a line. If you're on reserve when the advancement stops you might have been better off choosing a different plane/base combination. Good luck figuring out the matrix as to when that occurs and at what seniority the line will be drawn.


Current seniority list is 15,053. Doesn't include December's new hires. So it's about 15,135 +/-. The seniority list is updated July 1st so the list still includes retirees from July 1st 2018 until today.

We have something called the '3XP'. That was part of the old computer code to see where you sat in a bid status. You will get used to hearing that term as it shows you where you sit, and what trips you could hold, currently and going back to Jan 1998.

I used the current 3XP for January's flying and adjusted it for the movement posted in and out of bid statuses through March 2019. A bid status might show 300 guys but if 75 guys are leaving (green on the APA 3XP) the actual bid status size will be 225 in March. It's not shrinking, it's just guys moving between bid statuses are double counter (I think that's how it works!?!).

The following seniority numbers reflect 14,500 and 14,000 relative seniority percentages with 14,500 being the first percentage -

DFW S80 98% 76% * bid status no longer accepting new bids?
737D X 97% X = unable to hold
320D X 96%

LAX 737 81% 72%
320 73% 63%

LGA 737D 73% 41%
320 69% 54%

MIA 737 79% 64%
320 88% 74%

DCA 737 81% 65%

UDC 320 X 98% the worst. But if you live near DC...

PHL 190 58% 17% the best. But when does the music stop?
320 96% 95%


What is the bottom line holding seniority(rough estimate)?

DFW S80 14,500
737D 14,100
320 13,700

LAX 737 14,500
320 14,700

LGA 737D 14,700
320 14,700

MIA 737 14,300
320 14,800

DCA 737 14,800

UDC 320 13,800

PHL 190 14,500
320 13,300


Non new hire bases -

BOS X 94% 14,300
CLT X X 13,000
PHX 93% 88% 14,000
ORD 98% 98% 13,500

ColtF15

Wow! That is a ton of data and I really apperciate the time you put in.

Slowmover

My 2c... started at LGA in August, got to DCA in October. Commuter, my long term plan is DFW.

LGA was a pain for all the reasons mentioned elsewhere. DCA has been much better. Reserve is somewhat senior here, so I held a line in November. Crashpad is nice, $245/mo, 25 min walk to the gate at DCA. I had enough flexibility by December to fly pretty much all DCA unless I want BWI or IAD.

On the few occasions where it has made sense to go out there, I’ve been able to find decent convenient hotels for under $100. It is a hassle to get to either, and I usually commute in or out to them. BWI from DCA is on par with the Queens-EWR trip. 2+ hours on public transit or an expensive Uber.

I would definitely pick DCA over LGA again. YMMV!

wiz5422

Looks like I am leaning more LGA 320. Anyone with experience care to share their experience; commuting up their, crash pads, price, location, and length required for one. Good hotels, transportation options to both JFK and EWR? Time on reserve, how long to hold long call etc.


Thanks.

Pack

Class drop 1/8/19
7 LAX/FO/320/I
7 MIA/FO/320/I
5 LGA/FO/320/D
2 LGA/FO/737/I
10 MIA/FO/737/I
4 DCA/FO/737/D
7 LAX/FO/737/D
6 LGA/FO/737/D

aa73

DCA, first time it goes to new hires I believe, nice.

Buzzlightyear

I think your right. It went to NH guys in training sometime last year. 2 months ish on property.