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Old 06-11-2017, 09:50 AM
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It was fairly easy, for several years(1980 +/-), to estimate when a Pan Am guy got hired - 1964 CA, 1965 FO, 1966 FE, 1967 furloughed.
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Old 06-11-2017, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by hostagetofortun
And the "rumor" (I knew a Captain) at the time was; over at TWA which was now not that long out from under H. Hughes went like this, Up until 1964: After 2 years FE (clean) you could take the FO exams; if you passed you were an FO, if you didn't pass you were OUT (like out of the company). After 2 years FO (clean) you could take the Capt exams; if you passed you were a Capt., if you didn't pass you were OUT.
Hence TWA had the youngest Capt.'s and the oldest FE's of all the airlines, HA. I never could dispel or substantiate that setup, the couple TWA guys I knew at the time swore it was true.
Back in the mid 1950s a 10 year F/E with TWA was a member of my church in Kansas City. He went down in the mid-air crash over the Grand Canyon (Not the TWA crew's fault.) Both planes were sightseeing and no one was tracking that their unannounced paths were crossing. It is the reason today the FAA tracks flights between cities, not just at origin and destination.

I assume he preferred to stay sitting sideways. So, no up or out for him. The church erected a memorial tower in his memory, it exists today.

His son, who was in grade school at the time, is a mechanical engineer and the editor of the 1500 page Six Sigma Handbook (quality / reliability / defect free). I assume his dad's traumatic death that shook the aviation industry had something to do with his interest in "defect free" work.
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