AA Class Drops
01-14-2018, 08:07 PM
#452
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I realize some retirements occur over the summer, but if you are thinking the intent would be to front end load the hiring for summer, wouldn’t you have to cram those hires into the very first part of the year?
The first class of 39 is not a big enough size to do that. (Unless you are thinking the 2018 total hires will be less than the mandatory retirements.) They will have to be much bigger than that to achieve the objective you suggest.
01-14-2018, 09:24 PM
#454
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01-15-2018, 03:15 AM
#455
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01-15-2018, 03:57 AM
#456
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I think you may be confusing incompetence with utilization. This company is great at high utilization. If current scheduling practices are allowed high pilot utilization will continue.
01-15-2018, 08:16 AM
#457
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Wouldn’t the later part of the Jan-May time frame of new hires be too late in finishing training to help for the summer season? (I state the rather obvious.)
I realize some retirements occur over the summer, but if you are thinking the intent would be to front end load the hiring for summer, wouldn’t you have to cram those hires into the very first part of the year?
The first class of 39 is not a big enough size to do that. (Unless you are thinking the 2018 total hires will be less than the mandatory retirements.) They will have to be much bigger than that to achieve the objective you suggest.
I realize some retirements occur over the summer, but if you are thinking the intent would be to front end load the hiring for summer, wouldn’t you have to cram those hires into the very first part of the year?
The first class of 39 is not a big enough size to do that. (Unless you are thinking the 2018 total hires will be less than the mandatory retirements.) They will have to be much bigger than that to achieve the objective you suggest.
Don't they normally run two classes a month?
01-15-2018, 09:48 AM
#459
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Yes, they run 2 classes a month. From a practical standpoint, hire dates after March are too late to be able to help in the summer ramp up.
Say the 39 was intended to be 40. At 2 classes per month and 3 months: 40 x 2 x 3 = 240 hired Jan - Mar.
As you said all retirements are about 600. So 240 hired / 600 to retire for the year = 40% of the year’s backfill for retirement. If retirements are about the same every month, Jan-May would have 250 retirements, or 42%. That is not a front end load help for summer flying.
Further, if the plan is to hire 730, at the rate of 40 per class and a class every 2 weeks (and no hiccups in the system), they would be finished by Sept. If the plan is to hire 925, they would need to run classes through the end of Nov.
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01-15-2018, 11:44 AM
#460
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No, I indicated the latter part of Jan-May hire dates is too late to get on line for the bulk of the summer flying.
Yes, they run 2 classes a month. From a practical standpoint, hire dates after March are too late to be able to help in the summer ramp up.
Say the 39 was intended to be 40. At 2 classes per month and 3 months: 40 x 2 x 3 = 240 hired Jan - Mar.
As you said all retirements are about 600. So 240 hired / 600 to retire for the year = 40% of the year’s backfill for retirement. If retirements are about the same every month, Jan-May would have 250 retirements, or 42%. That is not a front end load help for summer flying.
Further, if the plan is to hire 730, at the rate of 40 per class and a class every 2 weeks (and no hiccups in the system), they would be finished by Sept. If the plan is to hire 925, they would need to run classes through the end of Nov.
Yes, they run 2 classes a month. From a practical standpoint, hire dates after March are too late to be able to help in the summer ramp up.
Say the 39 was intended to be 40. At 2 classes per month and 3 months: 40 x 2 x 3 = 240 hired Jan - Mar.
As you said all retirements are about 600. So 240 hired / 600 to retire for the year = 40% of the year’s backfill for retirement. If retirements are about the same every month, Jan-May would have 250 retirements, or 42%. That is not a front end load help for summer flying.
Further, if the plan is to hire 730, at the rate of 40 per class and a class every 2 weeks (and no hiccups in the system), they would be finished by Sept. If the plan is to hire 925, they would need to run classes through the end of Nov.
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