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Old 08-23-2017, 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by E175 Driver
Not trolling, just facts. The moment you get hired at envoy, you become AA pilot by default. A successful interview at envoy is all you need.
Keeping saying ridiculous things like this... you might find it a little challenging to get through Ground School and IOE. Flow doesn't guarantee you successfully make it through your probation period.
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Old 08-23-2017, 05:35 AM
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While employed at "Eagle" a percentage have consistently been telling people they are AA pilots for nearly 30 years.

The funniest stories have come from AA FA's as these guys have tried to impress them or other females nearby. FYI, the last person on earth that would be impressed by an AA pilot, especially one in the mid-90's, would be an AA FA. Relations fostered by the company weren't that great back then.

Every company has people like this. Thank god they are a minority.
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Old 08-23-2017, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by E175 Driver
Not trolling, just facts. The moment you get hired at envoy, you become AA pilot by default. A successful interview at envoy is all you need.
Remember what people say here, it's sound advice. Don't take it for granted. I flew with guys that were "guaranteed" a job at AA when I started, and they waited 15+ years.
You might want to start getting nervous: all the resigned in HI10s for the guys going to the September 18 class got pulled yesterday. It's not rumor, but fact.
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Old 08-23-2017, 06:29 AM
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Remember what people say here, it's sound advice. Don't take it for granted. I flew with guys that were "guaranteed" a job at AA when I started, and they waited 15+ years.
You might want to start getting nervous: all the resigned in HI10s for the guys going to the September 18 class got pulled yesterday. It's not rumor, but fact.
Easyflier, just curious what pulling HI10s means? PDT guy here, anxiously waiting news of an Oct class (saw the rumors of no more classes post-Sept)... so you're at least making this Dash driver nervous!
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Old 08-23-2017, 07:18 AM
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Only flows is a good idea because it is a step closer to one list and longevity recognition flying the AA operation and aircraft. It does not JUST benefit management. The flow requires further modification, but in my opinion is the most fair method of taking new hires to AA
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Old 08-23-2017, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by runwayrat
Easyflier, just curious what pulling HI10s means? PDT guy here, anxiously waiting news of an Oct class (saw the rumors of no more classes post-Sept)... so you're at least making this Dash driver nervous!
The day prior to your class date at AA, company automatically puts your resignation date in your HI10, which is your company attendance record. Before anyone contacts you for class at AA, you know when your date is since you see the resign date.
Mine is september 4th, starting class on september 5th.

All the other 20 guys that were awarded the flow below me in the same selection were given resign dates of september 17th to start on 18, but the company cancelled these.

So, does it mean there are no more classes? No idea. Does it mean they will go later his year? No idea.

Fact is, they were schedueled to go and it no longer is the case for that date.
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Old 08-23-2017, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Aviatrx
Only flows is a good idea because it is a step closer to one list and longevity recognition flying the AA operation and aircraft. It does not JUST benefit management. The flow requires further modification, but in my opinion is the most fair method of taking new hires to AA
So in your world we would have no off the street hiring? Not gonna happen, but keep dreaming
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Old 08-23-2017, 08:25 AM
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So in your world we would have no off the street hiring? Not gonna happen, but keep dreaming
Right on. Part of me wanted to respond, but it is not even worth it. Stupid idea.
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Old 08-23-2017, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by E175 Driver
Not trolling, just facts. The moment you get hired at envoy, you become AA pilot by default. A successful interview at envoy is all you need.
Your arrogance is matched only by your ignorance. As others have suggested, learn your history before stating "facts." If you truly do walk around with this attitude I have faith that you will do something that will undoubtedly jeopardize your ability to flow. You pump your chest as an American pilot because you have been hired at a regional. Many people have suffered a long time through very difficult times, I personally know people who took there own lives due in part to the economic collapse of the airline industry, so I would caution you to announce yourself as a peer to those who have truly earned it. I wish you nothing but the best and I hope you can find the time in all your experience to learn some respect and humility.
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Old 08-23-2017, 08:55 AM
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So flow means they didn't earn it? Two types at American, those who earned it and those who came via flow? The comment wasn't arrogant, actually, for sure not to the extent of your severe reaction.
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