AA Class Drops
#2491
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Joined APC: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,270
#2492
Snap Shot for dca 3 years here here next month. I’m dca 320. bidding 97% of line holders. 69% in base. on 73 i’d be exactly 50%. live closer to bwi and was fortunate to get entire month out of bee wii. my buddy who is coming up on 11 month is 111/124 on 320 dca. SC. Abused. Short calls and long all we’re pushing 60-76 hours of credit in jan. ouch.
#2493
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2020
Posts: 379
Snap Shot for dca 3 years here here next month. I’m dca 320. bidding 97% of line holders. 69% in base. on 73 i’d be exactly 50%. live closer to bwi and was fortunate to get entire month out of bee wii. my buddy who is coming up on 11 month is 111/124 on 320 dca. SC. Abused. Short calls and long all we’re pushing 60-76 hours of credit in jan. ouch.
#2494
On Reserve
Joined APC: Aug 2019
Posts: 19
Bro..get ready for the ultimate enema exam. Coming from Envoy, driving to work, able to pick up OT Willy nilly, etc..your first year over here at AA will suck some serious ballz. I wondered many of the same things as you as I came over. Best commute? There isn't one! There is nothing to prepare you for commuting on Reserve after +/- 8 years of driving to work back at Eaglevoy. Especially if you'll be commuting on Short Call month after month. Everyone hired/flowed up until mid 2019 had it good. They did one month on short call and after that had lines or were on Long Call afterwards.
Since then? We hit a weird stagnation bubble because of the S80 guys rotating back on the Airbus. So it's been Short Call with no end in sight. Seniority moves quicker on the 737, but there's a reason for that. Most people avoid that plane. Case and point is most of the S80 pilots choosing the Airbus... you'll see in your class. The Airbus goes first. The downside for you, if you're on the more desirable plane is that you'll wait a few months longer for anythinanything.
Also, contrary to the hive mentality, LAX is NOT the easiest commute from DFW. Everybody and their grandma does that commute. Flights are usually full and jumpseats always reserved. Good luck when you're on reserve, don't know when you will have to fly out or come home. Plus EVERYTHING is super expensive in LA. A crappy sandwich will cost you $11 or more. Crashpads are in the $350 for the most basic and crappy. Forget hotels...way too expensive. Oh, and get ready to do almost nothing but redeyes out of LAX. Especially on reserve. The first few aren't bad. But they pile up, screw up your sleep pattern, and become exhausting.
Here's a typical AA LAX gem: Red eye from LAX to JFK. Land in NY at 7am. Depart that same day at 8pm. Reverse red eye to SFO. In your hotel by 1am local and depart the next day at 1300.
It's much worse than it reads. My suggestion? PHL. One airport to cover on the Airbus. Far fewer commuters from DFW. Little to no red eyes. VERY affordable city. Everything from food to hotels. I don't even need a Crashpad. I can pay $70 for a hotel stay out the door. As needed.
As for pay. On reserve, as a commuter you'll be getting paid guarantee and nothing more typically. So that comes out to about $3000 per paycheck. Plus or minus a couple hundred.
That's all I can think of for now. It's much better than Envoy..but the initial hit to QOL is real and you have to be prepared for it.
Since then? We hit a weird stagnation bubble because of the S80 guys rotating back on the Airbus. So it's been Short Call with no end in sight. Seniority moves quicker on the 737, but there's a reason for that. Most people avoid that plane. Case and point is most of the S80 pilots choosing the Airbus... you'll see in your class. The Airbus goes first. The downside for you, if you're on the more desirable plane is that you'll wait a few months longer for anythinanything.
Also, contrary to the hive mentality, LAX is NOT the easiest commute from DFW. Everybody and their grandma does that commute. Flights are usually full and jumpseats always reserved. Good luck when you're on reserve, don't know when you will have to fly out or come home. Plus EVERYTHING is super expensive in LA. A crappy sandwich will cost you $11 or more. Crashpads are in the $350 for the most basic and crappy. Forget hotels...way too expensive. Oh, and get ready to do almost nothing but redeyes out of LAX. Especially on reserve. The first few aren't bad. But they pile up, screw up your sleep pattern, and become exhausting.
Here's a typical AA LAX gem: Red eye from LAX to JFK. Land in NY at 7am. Depart that same day at 8pm. Reverse red eye to SFO. In your hotel by 1am local and depart the next day at 1300.
It's much worse than it reads. My suggestion? PHL. One airport to cover on the Airbus. Far fewer commuters from DFW. Little to no red eyes. VERY affordable city. Everything from food to hotels. I don't even need a Crashpad. I can pay $70 for a hotel stay out the door. As needed.
As for pay. On reserve, as a commuter you'll be getting paid guarantee and nothing more typically. So that comes out to about $3000 per paycheck. Plus or minus a couple hundred.
That's all I can think of for now. It's much better than Envoy..but the initial hit to QOL is real and you have to be prepared for it.
That $ 3000 per paycheck. Is that a month or do you get paid twice a month?
#2496
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Joined APC: Oct 2005
Posts: 900
And it was more like $5,500 per month after tax for first year pay on SCR for me, married w/3 exemptions. That was with getting 5-6 days of per diem per month, on average. I made $70k last year with about 2 months of mil leave and that was with a few months of training pay (which is actually more then you make on short call).
#2498
AA Class Drops
Thanks for posting.
I don’t get it... why no LGA/737/I in any of the latest drops? They will have almost 70 captains there come June and only around 20 FO’s. When are they planning to bring them in?
#2499
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: A-320
Posts: 1,122
They'll probably wait a few more classes to put new hires there. New hires in this class will be on line before April.
#2500
AA Class Drops
That may be true. But supposedly the increase in flying begins a few months earlier than June. I would’ve thought they’d be bringing in FO’s earlier, but what do I know... I only fly the things.
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