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05-23-2018, 08:07 AM

#1001

airbus319

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Flew with a CK Airman yesterday. He said in last CKA meeting they are hiring an additional 200 pilots this year.. number is around 900 total for the year

05-23-2018, 08:07 AM

#1002

sumwherelse

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Originally Posted by Floobs

So much for the 900 this year plan.

I have been saying it for a while now. It was never going to be 900. If for no other reason then they can’t handle that many right now. I’d love to see 900 and in the future they better figur out a way to get 900 through. But that’s not happening this year.

05-23-2018, 09:22 AM

#1003

Buzzlightyear

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Floobs

So much for the 900 this year plan.

Wait..........

383 thru 5 months

estimate 383 the next 5 months

That’s 766 which is 76 new hires a month avg through Oct. They should hire in Nov but may not in Dec so hopefully 76 more for a total of.....

842 for the year. You’re disappointed with that?

05-23-2018, 09:27 AM

#1004

Buzzlightyear

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sumwherelse

I have been saying it for a while now. It was never going to be 900. If for no other reason then they can’t handle that many right now. I’d love to see 900 and in the future they better figur out a way to get 900 through. But that’s not happening this year.

We are hiring 108 new guys in May. For the year they are on target for 850 if they take a breather in Dec. Seems to me like things are spooling up.

05-23-2018, 12:10 PM

#1005

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The new fleet count and block hours are relatively unchanged from the last update so I'm guessing the hiring over attrition is for ACD being implemented.

It was a needed thing, total BS having three day trips pay 10 hours even if you start late and end early. It's almost worse ending so early because your entire day is wiped as you sleep it away if you don't get into a car wreck on the drive home.

We should have an override for off normal flying, say a $30/hr override for flight time between 1am-6am HBT.

Time to start tweaking our lifestyle / work life over pay rates.

05-23-2018, 12:29 PM

#1006

Al Czervik

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Originally Posted by GHOST

AAPilots still shows 730 for our 2018 hiring projections.

Is anything on any company site correct? IF you can find it?

05-23-2018, 03:43 PM

#1007

Regionalsuck

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Originally Posted by Buzzlightyear

We are hiring 108 new guys in May. For the year they are on target for 850 if they take a breather in Dec. Seems to me like things are spooling up.

I ran into the indoc angels at the training center and they told me when I asked that there wasn't a specific plan to go to 3 classes per month normally, that is just how it worked out for May. Not sure if that is accurate info or not, but they should know I would think since they are the one's emailing everyone for class stuff and doing indoc.

Training is getting more and more backed up it seems as is. Some guys are now waiting up to 6-7 weeks after indoc for training start dates.

I hope they can get things ramped up for everyones sake when the retirements really crank up. More people getting on below us the better! If not everyone will start getting withheld from bids forever and have terrible schedules when 800+ start retiring, creating a massive training bubble from hell that nobody is prepared to deal with.

Last edited by Regionalsuck; 05-23-2018 at 03:56 PM.

05-23-2018, 04:12 PM

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TransWorld

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Regionalsuck

I ran into the indoc angels at the training center and they told me when I asked that there wasn't a specific plan to go to 3 classes per month normally, that is just how it worked out for May.

With plans for a new class every two weeks, that means 26 classes per year. Thus, two months each year would have three classes and the rest of the months two. (You can do the math.) Except the last class in December would not be held, making 25 classes for the year.

Last year’s hires were 645. If the current trend holds, on track for 850 or a bit more for this year.

(Show your math - 383 hires /11 classes = 34.8 per class. 34.8 per class x 25 classes = 870 projected hires for the year.)

Regarding capacity ramping up, I agree with you. Retirements in five years will be above 900. Coupled with early outs and even modest growth, the training pipeline has to grow. No ifs ands or buts.

Last edited by TransWorld; 05-23-2018 at 04:25 PM.