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Spears will be headed your way soon...

Fr8Master

Exactly, guaranteed INTERVIEW yes. Guaranteed job? I don't think so. That leaves the vetting up to the regionals that are at the point where they will take pretty much anyone with 1500 hours and a pulse. Passing an interview at Envoy shouldn't be a ticket to check out and do the bare minimum to not get fired for four years until you flow. It's ridiculous.

mainlineAF

Best part about this flow is there is no flow back. How does that happen?

airboss

It's based on the planned completion of training. When you bid for an airplane on day 2 of indoc, they also assign a planned start and end date of training. That end date is when you hit your pay anniversary.


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drinksonme

"Help us fix it"....that is quote of all quotes. Maybe you want to see things fixed, but based on almost every aspect of LAA, no one want to fix anything. Specifically middle management, HR, Employee Relations (should be called Employee Retaliations), training department leadership, and MANY MANY APA BOD members as well as APA staff and volunteers. I have, along with many of my colleagues, offered countless ideas....to not even get an email response or any small amount of serious consideration. I don't care for our upper management, but even if they truly want to change the new AA, they can't because of all the old guard. Stuck in 1960-70's ancestor worship, or the Crandall error, ahem era, of change.

Thanks for the union work, seriously. However, you obviously did not think this through when you commented, as evident by the flow through. They are not vetting 1/2 the new hirers. It has nothing to do with AA trying to vet people properly. I am sure they do just fines once they finally get the molasses moving. It's more so about how out of date, out of touch, and unacceptable the process is at this time. Lots of friends of mine, who have exemplary resumes and character, have gone to other airlines cause of AA's process. Thus, the GOOD ones are going other places.....meaning they better damn well be vetting the ones they are getting.

It's needs to change, but it won't till the cultural change blockers retire

PRS Guitars

Which is a very crappy deal for new hires, and not the industry standard. I heard that Crandall got the APA to agree to this concession in the late 80's, don't know for sure though.

SilverandSore

That's the American way! Pretty cool ehh?

aa73

"Dangerous SOPs???" Say whaat? Care to elaborate?

AA has issues like everyone else but I'm pretty sure our SOPs are just fine and 100% safe.

ORDinary

Quick, you better merge and staple us envoy pilots before we start hiring tattooed ex-cons like Mesa does.

hawgdawg

I have a start date of 11 jul for indoc. I realize training dates are dynamic and difficult to forecast, but if I have my wedding set for 12 nov, does that seem reasonably far out to be safe? Is this something I can bring up during indoc as a concern if my training ends up being later?

Thanks guys,

HD