flybywire44

Do you come here just to vent?

PurpleTurtle

He says he is a 3rd lister but you say he isn't, and provide nothing but an implicit assumption.

You continue to be obsessed with supporting the Nicolau award and still pretend to be "just" an Eagle pilot.

I won't tell you that you are not "just" an Eagle pilot, but your obsession speaks for itself. How come all the Eagle pilots are NOT here obsessing (not even one additional Eagle pilot other than you)?

80ktsClamp

Eagle is an AA pilot... he flowed up a few years back.

Thedude

Correction, he flowed through fairly recently.

R57 relay

It's too hard to reply to. Yeah, that's it.

eaglefly

No, why would I need to do that ?

I'm not upset at what USAPA is doing because it's expected. Do you come here just to misrepresent ?

Read YOUR statement I highlighted again. If your only ability to defend it is "do you come here just to vent" (which has no relevance to the post you attach it too), then you cannot defend it. If you really believe what you post, that statement would apply to all arbitrations and the arbitration process, but we both know it doesn't, does it. You see, if you're willing to lie about who you are here as you have done, i.e., going from "not an East pilot" to "I'm a third lister", you're willing to rationalize and evade anything else. Again, I consider you to have no credibility here.

Perhaps you should take up discussion/debate with someone else who at least will give you credibility ?

eaglefly

When I get the time, I'll hunt the relative posts down, they're there. Cacti can verify that as well. Of course, those of us from Earth know that when it comes to Usapians, if it doesn't come from the mouth or keyboard of a Usapian, then it doesn't exist.


You must have an illiteracy problem. It just goes to show you that the interview process at any given carrier isn't perfect and the questionable DO slip by. I've said countless times here, I neither support nor disregard the Nic. If they use it, they use it and if they don't, they don't. I've stated multiple times as well, that I think it WON'T be used in its pure form.

I'm making this statement in the hope the 27th time is the charm for you.

There is no obsession, only another Usapian delusion. How come all East pilots or even Usapians aren't here making hundreds of posts in furtherance of the undefendable like you ?

Seems to me, once could make at least an equal claim of obsession on your part.

When flybywire was debating East/West/Nicolau issues with Cactiboss, he claimed he wasn't "an East pilot" (I'll find the posts, not that it matters to him or other Usapians) and finally when he found it necessary, he backpeddled and admitted he was a 3rd lister ?

I don't see you criticizing that ?

eaglefly

....and you know this for certain, how ?

Since you apparently do, what month/year are you convinced I flowed ?

If you can't answer that, your claim above is propwash.

eaglefly

Well, it's especially not worth the effort as his arguments are redundant and straw man in foundation. It's as if he's throwing mud on the wall making up new stuff as he goes along in the hope some of it will stick (actually, I think he's trying to convince himself most of all, but shhhh..............let's keep that to ourselves ).

Certainly nothing I say is going to change the mind of a Usapian and why should it ?

After all, arbitrators can't change their minds, federal judges can't change their minds, managements can't change their minds, other unions can't change their minds, some of their OWN pilots can't change their minds (reference some of the disgruntled 3rd listers here) and so why should I ?

My rebuttals are for those non-Usapians enjoying this show who want MORE then just the Usapian propaganda manifesto version of the current issues in dispute.

Capt Hindsight

Another cute sidestep of the question. You know I wasn't referring to USAPA representation as my discomfort.

USAPA's fitness should not be your concern, AFAIC, but the US pilots'. By recognized entity, do you mean the US merger committee, possible separate West representation, or both? I can understand why an APA member would love to have their opponents' representation nowhere to be found during arbitration. It would make things so much "easier" for APA, wouldn't it?

Capt H