Allegiant Air
12-19-2015, 03:47 PM
#981
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Joined APC: Jan 2010
Position: MD80
Posts: 188
Thats cool bro, sounds like you’ve really been around the block and back. Maybe when you get here, hopefully you will witness a few Allegiant management types being walked out in cuffs, right past your indoc class. For felonies ranging from falsification of maintenance records and making false statements to federal investigators. 
Jetliner's Low-Fuel Landing Draws U.S. FAA Reprimand to Airline - Bloomberg Business
Jetliner's Low-Fuel Landing Draws U.S. FAA Reprimand to Airline - Bloomberg Business
Like J3, I've been here fly a while. I've never once had a dispatcher tell me no when I've asked for more gas. I've never once had mx control tell me no to a contract mechanic. Sure, they'll try and apply an incorrect MEL from time to time and dispatch makes mistakes. More often than not I come to work, fly my trip, and go home without drama or major delays.
As has been said time and time again, we have real problems that need to be addressed in a real manner. Coming on a public website to make inflammatory remarks about your employer solely on the fact that contract negotiations aren't going as you want them to go is just plain stupid.
Grow up bro....
12-19-2015, 04:20 PM
#982
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Joined APC: Mar 2005
Position: Off to the left!
Posts: 464
Everyone's experience at Allegiant varies. I can tell you, in my experience, I have had dispatchers argue with me about adding fuel. I've also had dispatchers yell at me for not flying to an airport where the landing distance exceeded the length of the runway, due to snow and ice. I've had them route me right down the middle of hurricanes and tropical storms.
I've had maintenance control tell me to pull the calls circuit breaker on an MD-80 to make an erroneous takeoff config go away. I've also had them try to talk me in to flying a plane back to base because the contract mechanic was several hours away. If you put your foot down and say no, they will finally stop trying to talk you in to doing things.
Just on a side note, my personal record for MEL's on one plane was 26, and the most write ups I ever did on one plane was 16, but that one just came out of a heavy check. Of course the local mechanics said my write ups were in addition to the 50 or 60 other things they already knew about that needed to be fixed. No one told us about those.
But remember, your experience may be different, and your mileage may vary.
I've had maintenance control tell me to pull the calls circuit breaker on an MD-80 to make an erroneous takeoff config go away. I've also had them try to talk me in to flying a plane back to base because the contract mechanic was several hours away. If you put your foot down and say no, they will finally stop trying to talk you in to doing things.
Just on a side note, my personal record for MEL's on one plane was 26, and the most write ups I ever did on one plane was 16, but that one just came out of a heavy check. Of course the local mechanics said my write ups were in addition to the 50 or 60 other things they already knew about that needed to be fixed. No one told us about those.
But remember, your experience may be different, and your mileage may vary.
12-19-2015, 05:30 PM
#983
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 390
Guys, guys, at the end of the day...(sorry, couldn't resist).
We can all go back-and-forth as to our personal experiences, good or bad, but suffice to say the support leaves a great deal to be desired. Years back when we were starting out, we were all willing to roll up our sleeves and build the company, but once the company was built and profits were piling in, we expected to see improvement in all of these areas and to see our 'boats rise with the tides'. Instead, contrary to managements claims, our pay eroded as did our quality-of-life. One would imagine that the operation would at least get better with profits soaring, but the operation has actually gotten worse. While the shareholders have definitely seen the benefits, our passengers and our employees have not. Old excuses of growing pains need to stop. Hundreds of millions in buybacks and dividends should be reinvested into the company and its employees.
We can all go back-and-forth as to our personal experiences, good or bad, but suffice to say the support leaves a great deal to be desired. Years back when we were starting out, we were all willing to roll up our sleeves and build the company, but once the company was built and profits were piling in, we expected to see improvement in all of these areas and to see our 'boats rise with the tides'. Instead, contrary to managements claims, our pay eroded as did our quality-of-life. One would imagine that the operation would at least get better with profits soaring, but the operation has actually gotten worse. While the shareholders have definitely seen the benefits, our passengers and our employees have not. Old excuses of growing pains need to stop. Hundreds of millions in buybacks and dividends should be reinvested into the company and its employees.
12-19-2015, 06:20 PM
#984
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Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 136
Bro..Catch me if you can. Bro. Cheers
Jetliner's Low-Fuel Landing Draws U.S. FAA Reprimand to Airline - Bloomberg Business
12-19-2015, 06:27 PM
#985
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 61
Guys, guys, at the end of the day...(sorry, couldn't resist).
We can all go back-and-forth as to our personal experiences, good or bad, but suffice to say the support leaves a great deal to be desired. Years back when we were starting out, we were all willing to roll up our sleeves and build the company, but once the company was built and profits were piling in, we expected to see improvement in all of these areas and to see our 'boats rise with the tides'. Instead, contrary to managements claims, our pay eroded as did our quality-of-life. One would imagine that the operation would at least get better with profits soaring, but the operation has actually gotten worse. While the shareholders have definitely seen the benefits, our passengers and our employees have not. Old excuses of growing pains need to stop. Hundreds of millions in buybacks and dividends should be reinvested into the company and its employees.
We can all go back-and-forth as to our personal experiences, good or bad, but suffice to say the support leaves a great deal to be desired. Years back when we were starting out, we were all willing to roll up our sleeves and build the company, but once the company was built and profits were piling in, we expected to see improvement in all of these areas and to see our 'boats rise with the tides'. Instead, contrary to managements claims, our pay eroded as did our quality-of-life. One would imagine that the operation would at least get better with profits soaring, but the operation has actually gotten worse. While the shareholders have definitely seen the benefits, our passengers and our employees have not. Old excuses of growing pains need to stop. Hundreds of millions in buybacks and dividends should be reinvested into the company and its employees.
12-19-2015, 06:50 PM
#986
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Joined APC: Nov 2011
Position: Volleyball Player
Posts: 4,003
Thank you for the different perspective J3cub. I know there is no such thing as a perfect airline and as long as these incidents are the exception and not the rule i'd be happy. Not sure how many of you have been in the 135 world but let me tell you, it's 10 times worst than the worst airline!
12-19-2015, 07:10 PM
#987
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Posts: 136
Jetliner's Low-Fuel Landing Draws U.S. FAA Reprimand to Airline - Bloomberg Business
12-19-2015, 07:47 PM
#988
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Position: Santa's Sleight Driver
Posts: 83
Allegiant Air
Agreed, I meant that as a general rule James. There are some 135's out there that actually run like a 121 company, just certified in paper as a 135. But these are the exception not the rule.
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12-19-2015, 08:01 PM
#989
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Let's not pee on the man's parade James. You heard him, he’s been there done that, seen the world and all. With a little prodding of the forces that be, he could be in the indoc class that witness’s our coo “Mav” and/or other Allegiant management types rolled out the building in handcuffs; for making false statements to federal investigators and/or willful falsification of maintenance records.
Jetliner's Low-Fuel Landing Draws U.S. FAA Reprimand to Airline - Bloomberg Business
Jetliner's Low-Fuel Landing Draws U.S. FAA Reprimand to Airline - Bloomberg Business
And as for you sir, with every post you make you are losing credibility. I might not have 121 experience or actually been around the world like you claim I have but I do have common sense. I can understand that you want to make a point but if I may suggest, you should reconsider your approach. By being disrespectful and saying childish things you are not helping your battle. Sleep on it!
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12-19-2015, 08:11 PM
#990
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And as for you sir, with every post you make you are loosing credibility. I might not have 121 experience or actually been around the world like you claim I have but I do have common sense. I can understand that you want to make a point but if I may suggest, you should reconsider your approach. By being disrespectful and saying childish things you are not helping your battle. Sleep on it!
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