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Old 12-06-2015, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by C6vette088
But hey don't let me rain on your conspiracy parade.
Not picking on you Vette, but I heard a rumor about conspiracies yesterday, apparently Allegiant's CP believes his "buddies" have been "blocked" from getting jobs at a certain other airline.
If thats the case maybe said individuals conspiracy theories come from the fact that he junked up a couple departing pilot PRIA reports after they had already got another job, when confronted he apologized. No word if they have been corrected.

Something to consider if you are going to dip your toe in here at Allegiant for a little jet time before moving on: Your PRIA report may walk away with an STD!
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Old 12-06-2015, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Squirrel4Hire
Not picking on you Vette, but I heard a rumor about conspiracies yesterday, apparently Allegiant's CP believes his "buddies" have been "blocked" from getting jobs at a certain other airline.
If thats the case maybe said individuals conspiracy theories come from the fact that he junked up a couple departing pilot PRIA reports after they had already got another job, when confronted he apologized. No word if they have been corrected.

Something to consider if you are going to dip your toe in here at Allegiant for a little jet time before moving on: Your PRIA report may walk away with an STD!
It hasn't been an issue with guys I know.
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Old 12-06-2015, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by BigTime
Mission Mode is a last minute, desperate attempt by the company to find pilots to fly a trip that would otherwise be cancelled. It should be paid at a guaranteed premium 2x or better and it should be written in a contract. Unfortunately it is only paid at 8hrs ABG. If the trip is already 7 hours long, you only get paid 1 additional hour above straight pay.

Mission Mode is also being used by management to understaff the reserves which is bad for all of us. If you ever need a day off, forget about it because they no longer have excess reserve pilots due to those who fly Mission Mode trips.

Let's not forget about the effect Mission Mode has on your average line value each month. Fewer pilots on reserve means more pilots get a line in each base every month. That means all the trips get divided up among more pilots. The result is fewer hours on each line every month for line holders.

Ever been TDY'd? You can blame the pilots who fly Mission Mode for your month-long forced vacation away from your family. That's because the company needs fewer pilots in each base if they can simply send out a mission mode to get a trip covered. During the slower months that means bigger bases will have excess TDY's.

SFB is a good example of this problem. Month after month they TDY more pilots out of that base than any other. It's no coincidence that SFB had traditionally been one of the worst bases in the system for pilots who will accept Mission Mode trips. Those guys are screwing themselves and the pilots junior to them and they don't even realize it (or they don't care).

Mission Mode is bad. The pilots who fly Mission Mode are screwing you out of a better schedule, more money, and more days off. It needs to go away and be replaced by a seniority based system that pays double time or better. It would still save the company a ton of money because they wouldn't have to cancel flights but the company has no incentive to do it if pilots keep flying Mission Modes.
Thanks for the explanation. I've heard the SFB problem with TDYs explained a little differently. I was told they unintentionally overstaffed SFB due to not taking as many planes as originally planned causing that base to be overstaffed and where all the TDYs will come from.
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Old 12-06-2015, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Squirrel4Hire
Not picking on you Vette, but I heard a rumor about conspiracies yesterday, apparently Allegiant's CP believes his "buddies" have been "blocked" from getting jobs at a certain other airline.
If thats the case maybe said individuals conspiracy theories come from the fact that he junked up a couple departing pilot PRIA reports after they had already got another job, when confronted he apologized. No word if they have been corrected.

Something to consider if you are going to dip your toe in here at Allegiant for a little jet time before moving on: Your PRIA report may walk away with an STD!
You do realize any failure that goes on a pilots PRIA is signed by that pilot? A copy of what the pilot signs must be given to the pilot if requested. If what you claim has happened, that is falsifying a federal document. It is not as simple as "I am sorry" especially if this happens to multiple pilots that are simply separating employment. A track record of that would be malice and easy to prove.
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Old 12-06-2015, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by fishforfun
Thanks for the explanation. I've heard the SFB problem with TDYs explained a little differently. I was told they unintentionally overstaffed SFB due to not taking as many planes as originally planned causing that base to be overstaffed and where all the TDYs will come from.
"Overstaffed" is a matter of perspective...we haven't added much to the mix here, yet the flying is about to increase another 20% or so...
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Old 12-06-2015, 09:22 AM
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I like Allegiant's response these days. It's gone from;

"Our demanding schedule and hot summer temperatures are taxing our fleet", to;

"We have a team of mechanics investigating this occurrence", to;

"Our safety record is among the best in the industry", to;

"Ah, feck it, da' plane's busted- what of it?!"

http://www.tampabay.com/news/business/airlines/st-pete-clearwater-bound-allegiant-air-flight-makes-emergency-landing/2256514
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Old 12-06-2015, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by flynryan15
You do realize any failure that goes on a pilots PRIA is signed by that pilot? A copy of what the pilot signs must be given to the pilot if requested. If what you claim has happened, that is falsifying a federal document. It is not as simple as "I am sorry" especially if this happens to multiple pilots that are simply separating employment. A track record of that would be malice and easy to prove.
I also heard another guy resigned and they indicated that he was terminated on his PRIA, more than just training on those things at AAY.

And nothing is "easy to prove".
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Old 12-06-2015, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Squirrel4Hire
I also heard another guy resigned and they indicated that he was terminated on his PRIA, more than just training on those things at AAY.

And nothing is "easy to prove".
These types of rumors always sound fishy to me. AAY doesn't pick what goes on a PRIA report, reportable is defined by the PRIA ACT. The only way a termination is reportable to PRIA is negative performance of pilot duties. Guess I will find out soon enough as I just resigned from AAY.
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Old 12-06-2015, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by flynryan15
You do realize any failure that goes on a pilots PRIA is signed by that pilot? A copy of what the pilot signs must be given to the pilot if requested. If what you claim has happened, that is falsifying a federal document. It is not as simple as "I am sorry" especially if this happens to multiple pilots that are simply separating employment. A track record of that would be malice and easy to prove.
Heard an FO in PIE asked for his PRIA and was told no. He had to hire a labor lawyer. I don't know what the resolution was, but that's a far cry from being able to audit your file anytime you want.
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Old 12-06-2015, 12:07 PM
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Heard an FO in PIE asked for his PRIA and was told no. He had to hire a labor lawyer. I don't know what the resolution was, but that's a far cry from being able to audit your file anytime you want.
Well that most certainly is not complying with the PRIA ACT. It would be interesting to see the out come. The PRIA specifically states they have to furnish records within 20 days, if they cannot furnish within 20 days they have to inform you why and the delay has to be reasonable. BUT the records have to be furnished within 30 days. These are calendar days not working days.
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