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Old 11-13-2015, 06:07 AM
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Old 11-13-2015, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by navigatro
Who was calling them on the radio, telling them (the crew) to hold off on the evacuation?
Could it have been a pilot in a nearby aircraft, saw there was no fire, spoke up but then decided he didn't want to stop the evacuation since it seemed the safest thing to do and that Captain K has already began it?

There was a limited number of people using the radio on that freq at that time that could see the aircraft and respond in that way.

Or perhaps one of the Fire/Rescue folks that saw there was no fire, then backed down for some reason?? It probably wasn't a tower person, they were already part of the conversation with the pilot and they too wanted to know who the unknown person was.

Interesting that the unknown voice didn't speak anymore after the request to identify himself. Makes me think it was someone that decided they didn't want to interject themselves into the situation.

Looking forward to hearing how Allegiant management spins this. They probably will say he did it as a pro-union thing, something to encourage management to agree to contract, etc.

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Old 11-13-2015, 06:25 AM
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I wonder what the cost of an evac is compared to a JT8D blowing up.
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Old 11-13-2015, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes
I wonder what the cost of an evac is compared to a JT8D blowing up.
Servicing and repacking the emerg slides has a high cost, someone said it was about $25k per slide, plus the plane is out of service until the slides are replaced. They might have some spare slides they can quickly install, but if it is like the other spare parts then not likely. So parking that plane for several days is costly.

But having a engine blast apart with flames is ugly on the news, everyone has a camera nowadays, so social media would take it to the max exposure. And I think I read good replacement engines are several hundred thousand dollars but my memory on that isn't sure.
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Old 11-13-2015, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by navigatro
Who was calling them on the radio, telling them (the crew) to hold off on the evacuation?
One of the articles alludes to the possibility of that being revealed in the lawsuit.
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Old 11-13-2015, 07:09 AM
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I think one thing that is lost in all this is you can have deadly smoke without any indication of a fire. Whether through asphyxiation or chemicals, it can kill just the same.

Decisions are made only with the available information on hand at the moment.

The company reaction according to the news report seems to emphasize that there were people hurt during the evacuation (a given). I wonder what alternative they were suggesting given the possible deadly fumes present on board.
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Old 11-13-2015, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by BFMthisA10
...wait, WHAT?
20 emergency aborts/lndgs by an airline the size of ALG is quite a bit.

Where is the FAA on this shietz? Why do we pay a boot full of taxes to have an FAA who just sits by and waits for an ALG jet to have a mechanical so bad that their crews can't save the day?

Then everyone will say.... well we could see it coming, ALG will go the way of Valuejet, the FAA will act surprised by what they find, the NTSB will say it was preventable, and all the remaining companies in the industry will feel the heat of overburdensome regulation all the while the AGL mgmt will walk away millionaires x 100 and their employees (the ones who aren't killed in an incident) will be looking for work.
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Old 11-13-2015, 07:12 AM
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This place is unfit to hold a Part 121 certificate.
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Old 11-13-2015, 07:13 AM
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NBC, Wall Street Journal, Good Morning America, that place can't seem to stay off the news wires! Years of REALLY bad management and cutting corners, all out war with its pilots. Chickens are finally coming home to roost. At least the media is paying attention, the FAA isn't.
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Old 11-13-2015, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by BFMthisA10
...wait, WHAT?
One of Allegiant's emergency landings this year was conducted by two management pilots who ran the airplane out of fuel because they didn't read the NOTAM about a closed airport!

Did THEY get fired???
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