Allegiant Air
04-20-2019, 01:40 PM
#6101
Banned
Joined APC: Nov 2017
Posts: 9
“Congratulations! Upon review of your application you have been selected to continue in our interview process for the position of First Officer.
“We are rapidly transitioning our fleet to all Airbus and foresee further growth which will drive the need for new higher classes. As future new hire class dates are determined you will be contacted to move forward to the next phase in the interview process. No further action is required on your part at this time, and we will continue to be in contact with you. If you have any questions or concerns, please contact the Pilot Program Manager.
“Should your situation or interest in joining Allegiant change, please be sure to inform us so that we may update your application.
“We look forward to talking with you soon!”
Anyone else get an email? I applied 6 months ago and was a little surprised when this showed up in my inbox. A friend who left there recently and another who is there currently cautioned me against making a move for Allegiant. I haven’t been keeping up with Allegiant lately, so I want to see if anyone could shed some light on:
1) Growth / Aircraft orders?
2) Upgrade times?
3) Attrition?
4) Health Insurance?
5) Senior and Junior Pilot Bases?
6) Company Culture / Morale?
I know to take everything on here with a grain of salt. Just doing some research.
“We are rapidly transitioning our fleet to all Airbus and foresee further growth which will drive the need for new higher classes. As future new hire class dates are determined you will be contacted to move forward to the next phase in the interview process. No further action is required on your part at this time, and we will continue to be in contact with you. If you have any questions or concerns, please contact the Pilot Program Manager.
“Should your situation or interest in joining Allegiant change, please be sure to inform us so that we may update your application.
“We look forward to talking with you soon!”
Anyone else get an email? I applied 6 months ago and was a little surprised when this showed up in my inbox. A friend who left there recently and another who is there currently cautioned me against making a move for Allegiant. I haven’t been keeping up with Allegiant lately, so I want to see if anyone could shed some light on:
1) Growth / Aircraft orders?
2) Upgrade times?
3) Attrition?
4) Health Insurance?
5) Senior and Junior Pilot Bases?
6) Company Culture / Morale?
I know to take everything on here with a grain of salt. Just doing some research.
I also agree as said above, if you are at a regional and get hired, come on over and keep your apps current, but otherwise I would use caution.
04-20-2019, 07:36 PM
#6102
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2013
Posts: 218
2) Not only we're not getting many planes but the company's goal is to reduce the number of pilots per aircraft so add that to a younger pilot group and low attrition rate, upgrade is going to be painfully slow.
3) last 2 years average is 2.5 pilots/month, with an increasing trend over time.
4) I very rarely use it, happy with it.
5) on April seniority list, bottom guys are in TYS, PGD, AVL, SFB. IWA has been consistently senior.
6) I'm going to make some popcorn, sit back, relax and enjoy the show on this one.
04-21-2019, 09:59 AM
#6103
Banned
Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 733
The junior folks are better off answering your specific questions about hiring but morale and satisfaction here varies greatly with seniority. If you're very senior and live in base its the best job ever. If you're junior in a base you don't want it's the worst job ever. Right now, theres a lot of junior folks in bases they don't want. Unless something changes or theres a big announcement upgrade is running about 5 years currently. The most junior captain in the company is a 12/15 hire with a seniority number of about 550 out of 870. For those of you living in Rio Linda that means at least 320 pilots are ahead of you potentially wanting to upgrade. The company wants to cut staffing by 2.5 crews per plane so upgrades will only be a trickle when they begin again. It's going to be a very long time before any new hires see the left seat. Don't let them tell you otherwise. If you're a regional FO and want to get a Bus type to look good for Delta come on over. If you live in a base and want to be home most of the time come on over. If you plan to commute or play base hopscotch for the 5 years you will be a junior FO you will hate your life. Caveat Emptor.
04-22-2019, 07:06 AM
#6104
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2017
Posts: 40
04-22-2019, 06:22 PM
#6105
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2016
Posts: 120
6) Morale is low among people who didn’t manage their expectations; it’s not necessarily related to seniority. If you come here expecting IWA from day one, you’re going to have low morale. If you come here expecting the possibility of being awarded a base you don’t want with an un-commutable schedule (when junior), your morale will be much better. In my opinion, I think it’s worth living in an unwanted base for a few years to eventually get a base you do want and reap the benefits of our QOL and schedules. The vast majority of pilots I fly with are happy and content.
04-23-2019, 02:14 PM
#6106
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2017
Position: 175 CA
Posts: 1,285
1) 8 or 9 of this year's 17 new aircrafts still have to be delivered, nobody knows about next year. No major growth in sight on the airline side as the company now is focusing on building hotels/resorts and fun centers.
2) Not only we're not getting many planes but the company's goal is to reduce the number of pilots per aircraft so add that to a younger pilot group and low attrition rate, upgrade is going to be painfully slow.
3) last 2 years average is 2.5 pilots/month, with an increasing trend over time.
4) I very rarely use it, happy with it.
5) on April seniority list, bottom guys are in TYS, PGD, AVL, SFB. IWA has been consistently senior.
6) I'm going to make some popcorn, sit back, relax and enjoy the show on this one.
2) Not only we're not getting many planes but the company's goal is to reduce the number of pilots per aircraft so add that to a younger pilot group and low attrition rate, upgrade is going to be painfully slow.
3) last 2 years average is 2.5 pilots/month, with an increasing trend over time.
4) I very rarely use it, happy with it.
5) on April seniority list, bottom guys are in TYS, PGD, AVL, SFB. IWA has been consistently senior.
6) I'm going to make some popcorn, sit back, relax and enjoy the show on this one.
04-23-2019, 02:17 PM
#6107
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: First Officer
Posts: 432
No one knows how long to hold anything, because we haven’t hired in 16 months. I would not come to Allegiant unless you are willing to spend a fair amount of time in GRR or SAV since that is what is vacant now.
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04-24-2019, 08:36 AM
#6108
Banned
Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 733
The bottom LAS FO is a 11/17 hire but like said above its irrelevant since we haven't hired since then. When we finally do start hiring again it's going to be a flood gate opening and pilots transferring everywhere.
Junior bases back when we were hiring have been LAS, SFB, PGD, FLL, LAX, OAK (OAK is closing at the end of this summer). Anyone hired this year (if we hire this year) will go to GRR and SAV because nobody wanted them. We have opened several bases since we last hired so really there is no way to predict. We also have a displacement bid coming in May for the OAK closure which will even make it harder to predict. That's 11 CAs and 9 FOs. The bottom pilots in the system will probably get bumped to SAV and GRR as everyone trickles down. If you come here plan on being in a base you don't want for at least a year. Or you may luck out.
Junior bases back when we were hiring have been LAS, SFB, PGD, FLL, LAX, OAK (OAK is closing at the end of this summer). Anyone hired this year (if we hire this year) will go to GRR and SAV because nobody wanted them. We have opened several bases since we last hired so really there is no way to predict. We also have a displacement bid coming in May for the OAK closure which will even make it harder to predict. That's 11 CAs and 9 FOs. The bottom pilots in the system will probably get bumped to SAV and GRR as everyone trickles down. If you come here plan on being in a base you don't want for at least a year. Or you may luck out.
04-25-2019, 07:51 AM
#6109
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Position: A320
Posts: 1,347
Drew Wells on investor call yesterday...
I think the first part you've talked about what midsize going to be big leisure destinations in Mexico and phase two being the Caribbean is absolutely, what we would be looking at there. It's our bread and butter and what's we do it very well domestically and so work very well internationally.
Also said roughly 10 aircraft per year indefinitely.
I think the first part you've talked about what midsize going to be big leisure destinations in Mexico and phase two being the Caribbean is absolutely, what we would be looking at there. It's our bread and butter and what's we do it very well domestically and so work very well internationally.
Also said roughly 10 aircraft per year indefinitely.
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