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#5501
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2016
Posts: 120
Who cares what type of terminal we pull up to. It’s not like we have to walk through it at the end of the day with all our crap, wait for a hotel shuttle, and come back through the terminal the next morning. I personally don’t care if we pull up to a barn. All I care about is a timely turn so I can get home. That is what really matters.
If I have to sacrifice a jet bridge, Hudson News, and Starbucks in AUS for our company to continue being extremely profitable, so be it. A timely turn and getting home is second only to job security.
If I were a passenger, I would rather sit in AUS South Terminal than many other terminals across the country. If we didn’t communicate the change with our passengers, whoops. But the food truck makes up for it
If I have to sacrifice a jet bridge, Hudson News, and Starbucks in AUS for our company to continue being extremely profitable, so be it. A timely turn and getting home is second only to job security.
If I were a passenger, I would rather sit in AUS South Terminal than many other terminals across the country. If we didn’t communicate the change with our passengers, whoops. But the food truck makes up for it
#5502
Banned
Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 733
If someone fits management's target demographic they basically can get an interview at will. When I met a recruiter (and was basically offered a job on the spot) they told me they are looking for guys with a few years at a regional, maybe just upgraded or has been a captain less than a year. You answered your own question re: your well qualified buddy. He already went to southwest, which they probably figured he would do if they hired him. So, if you are not quite up to competitive mins for the legacies (or have no degree etc...) you can basically interview at G4 whenever you're ready. If you are competitive, you better figure out how to convince them that you want to be there for the long haul, and quick.
#5503
Banned
Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 733
Who cares what type of terminal we pull up to. It’s not like we have to walk through it at the end of the day with all our crap, wait for a hotel shuttle, and come back through the terminal the next morning. I personally don’t care if we pull up to a barn. All I care about is a timely turn so I can get home. That is what really matters.
If I have to sacrifice a jet bridge, Hudson News, and Starbucks in AUS for our company to continue being extremely profitable, so be it. A timely turn and getting home is second only to job security.
If I were a passenger, I would rather sit in AUS South Terminal than many other terminals across the country. If we didn’t communicate the change with our passengers, whoops. But the food truck makes up for it
If I have to sacrifice a jet bridge, Hudson News, and Starbucks in AUS for our company to continue being extremely profitable, so be it. A timely turn and getting home is second only to job security.
If I were a passenger, I would rather sit in AUS South Terminal than many other terminals across the country. If we didn’t communicate the change with our passengers, whoops. But the food truck makes up for it
#5504
Banned
Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 733
You come on here asking for info, say you want to work here, then you get trolled just a little and you lash out like this? Wow. Neither the pilot group nor management want people who can't get along with others/bad attitude/hate their job working here. So I say the first step to the application process is check your ego at the door! The video interview is actually a pretty good screening tool in this regard...
#5505
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2012
Position: Arrgh Jay
Posts: 350
Legacies, on average, are hiring the less experienced captains as well. Where does that leave a guy with 10k hours in the left seat? (Yes, degree included.)
I really would like to know what disqualifies someone with above average flight hours. Some of us would like to move on and hang our hat at a LCC and have decades left to give.
Very frustrating seeing average guys and gals move on after supervising some of their teething pain. It is a surreal hiring environment where experience is seen as a liability pretty much everywhere now.
I really would like to know what disqualifies someone with above average flight hours. Some of us would like to move on and hang our hat at a LCC and have decades left to give.
Very frustrating seeing average guys and gals move on after supervising some of their teething pain. It is a surreal hiring environment where experience is seen as a liability pretty much everywhere now.
#5506
Legacies, on average, are hiring the less experienced captains as well. Where does that leave a guy with 10k hours in the left seat? (Yes, degree included.)
I really would like to know what disqualifies someone with above average flight hours. Some of us would like to move on and hang our hat at a LCC and have decades left to give.
Very frustrating seeing average guys and gals move on after supervising some of their teething pain. It is a surreal hiring environment where experience is seen as a liability pretty much everywhere now.
I really would like to know what disqualifies someone with above average flight hours. Some of us would like to move on and hang our hat at a LCC and have decades left to give.
Very frustrating seeing average guys and gals move on after supervising some of their teething pain. It is a surreal hiring environment where experience is seen as a liability pretty much everywhere now.
#5507
Banned
Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 733
Allegiant recruiting should recognize that these high time, clean record, middle aged RJ pilots AREN'T getting hired by the legacies and AREN'T GOING TO. It's obvious that the legacies want younger, moderate experience pilots they can mold. The high time guys aren't even getting hired from here! We should be grabbing them up. They probably will end up being happy long term employees, and with a decade of PIC experience, ready to step into the left seat when seniority allows in 2 years. Unlike some of our recent upgrades who were hired here without PIC experience and are struggling.
#5508
I had 10,000 hours, 6 types, 121, military, and fractional time and still managed to get hired. Most of the folks in my new hire class were 121 regional captain and f/o. Our average flight time was probably around 7,000 hours. We had a lot of experience (retired tanker guy, regional APD, heavy freight guy). I don't believe the notion that experience will block you from getting a job here.
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#5509
Layover Master
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: Seated
Posts: 4,314
I had 10,000 hours, 6 types, 121, military, and fractional time and still managed to get hired. Most of the folks in my new hire class were 121 regional captain and f/o. Our average flight time was probably around 7,000 hours. We had a lot of experience (retired tanker guy, regional APD, heavy freight guy). I don't believe the notion that experience will block you from getting a job here.
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7000tt
500tpic
Three types
International experience (Europe, Asia, Middle East)
121 and 135
Bachelors
Masters
No crazy skeletons or obvious reject criteria.
Don't know......
#5510
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Position: A-320
Posts: 680
I agree with jegermeister. Experience can be visualized in a logarithmic growth graph (opposite of exponential). In my opinion, if you have about 4,000 hours (civilian) with some TPIC the experience box is checked and you don't get a bigger (or smaller) check mark with more time.
If we're going to oversimplify this topic then the most common problem with some high time RJ guys is their attitude. Some believe that because they have 10k hours that a lower tier LCC should be lucky to be graced with their presence and should plea for an opportunity to hire them. This is usually picked up pretty quick by recruitment.
Most would also assume that 10-20 years of RJ Captain experience would translate to an 100% pass rate in initial training but no better example to prove that percentage wrong was seen throughout the industry after hiring Comair veterans. Don't get me wrong, this wasn't the majority and we have some great pilots from there but the failure/washout rate across the industry was surprisingly a lot more than a couple.
If we're going to oversimplify this topic then the most common problem with some high time RJ guys is their attitude. Some believe that because they have 10k hours that a lower tier LCC should be lucky to be graced with their presence and should plea for an opportunity to hire them. This is usually picked up pretty quick by recruitment.
Most would also assume that 10-20 years of RJ Captain experience would translate to an 100% pass rate in initial training but no better example to prove that percentage wrong was seen throughout the industry after hiring Comair veterans. Don't get me wrong, this wasn't the majority and we have some great pilots from there but the failure/washout rate across the industry was surprisingly a lot more than a couple.
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