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Allegiant airworthiness called into question - Story
I’m no $1000Hr. Fordharrison attorney, but this news piece suggests that G4 management falsely assured the public that all systems were A-ok after their contract maintenance forgot to secure a cotter pin on the tail assembly of flight 436 on August 17, 2015.
I hope the FAA will actually do something. Maybe criminal charges? Seems like executives have gone to jail for far less. Who knows? I wonder how the NMB board would come to view what we already know about the character of G4 management.
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I’m no $1000Hr. Fordharrison attorney, but this news piece suggests that G4 management falsely assured the public that all systems were A-ok after their contract maintenance forgot to secure a cotter pin on the tail assembly of flight 436 on August 17, 2015.
I hope the FAA will actually do something. Maybe criminal charges? Seems like executives have gone to jail for far less. Who knows? I wonder how the NMB board would come to view what we already know about the character of G4 management.
Apples don't fall far from the tree.
Trucks: GMS Racing to appeal Talladega penalties | FOX Sports
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Is there any info you guys that are at Allegiant can give to us who are considering coming there? and before venting or saying 'dont' (the forums give a general idea of conditions there, etc) What is important is the current and proposed contract, and I have not found that info anywhere. Only current employees really have an idea of any of the specifics of what REALLY matter to an airline pilot- scheduling, health insurance, LTD/STD, vacation, sick calls, travel benefits both on Allegient and with other airlines. (compensation and retirement is covered on airline profile page) Thats the nuts and bolts that determine our lives and happiness....
Do days off improve with seniority, or is 10/11
fairly standard across the board? Maybe this varies widely depending on the seasonality of leisure travel?
What are the more junior/senior bases? this leads to question of realistic upgrade time. What would the difference be between say taking quickest possible upgrade (getting hired today) choosing no base/tdy versus waiting for a specific base Myrtle Beach or Tampa for instance, considering you may have made a home there?
Sorry for the long questionaire, but in trying to consider this place the REAL questions are not answered on the company website, or on here so much. Thanks for anyone taking the time to extend some information, it very well might make the difference in flying with someone somewhat content or preventing them from making a career mistake.
Do days off improve with seniority, or is 10/11
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What are the more junior/senior bases? this leads to question of realistic upgrade time. What would the difference be between say taking quickest possible upgrade (getting hired today) choosing no base/tdy versus waiting for a specific base Myrtle Beach or Tampa for instance, considering you may have made a home there?
Sorry for the long questionaire, but in trying to consider this place the REAL questions are not answered on the company website, or on here so much. Thanks for anyone taking the time to extend some information, it very well might make the difference in flying with someone somewhat content or preventing them from making a career mistake.
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Is there any info you guys that are at Allegiant can give to us who are considering coming there? and before venting or saying 'dont' (the forums give a general idea of conditions there, etc) What is important is the current and proposed contract, and I have not found that info anywhere. Only current employees really have an idea of any of the specifics of what REALLY matter to an airline pilot- scheduling, health insurance, LTD/STD, vacation, sick calls, travel benefits both on Allegient and with other airlines. (compensation and retirement is covered on airline profile page) Thats the nuts and bolts that determine our lives and happiness....
Do days off improve with seniority, or is 10/11
fairly standard across the board? Maybe this varies widely depending on the seasonality of leisure travel?
What are the more junior/senior bases? this leads to question of realistic upgrade time. What would the difference be between say taking quickest possible upgrade (getting hired today) choosing no base/tdy versus waiting for a specific base Myrtle Beach or Tampa for instance, considering you may have made a home there?
Sorry for the long questionaire, but in trying to consider this place the REAL questions are not answered on the company website, or on here so much. Thanks for anyone taking the time to extend some information, it very well might make the difference in flying with someone somewhat content or preventing them from making a career mistake.
Do days off improve with seniority, or is 10/11
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What are the more junior/senior bases? this leads to question of realistic upgrade time. What would the difference be between say taking quickest possible upgrade (getting hired today) choosing no base/tdy versus waiting for a specific base Myrtle Beach or Tampa for instance, considering you may have made a home there?
Sorry for the long questionaire, but in trying to consider this place the REAL questions are not answered on the company website, or on here so much. Thanks for anyone taking the time to extend some information, it very well might make the difference in flying with someone somewhat content or preventing them from making a career mistake.
Any base is junior with the amount of people being hired, the factor is if you get the bus or MD80. You can see online which plane is based where. 757 is going away per the financial reports.
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Is there any info on what the proposed new contract entails? About half of it is agreed upon, about half not- of course the important categories for line pilots. Does the 'new' contract -proposal- have min days of 12/13 for instance, an improvement in blocks of days off vs 1 at a time , a percentage of company vs employee contribution to health care plan and its description, etc? Maybe what im asking is unknown to anybody/unagreed upon at this point. If thats the case please say so, which means who knows what the end result will be with a contract, at whatever point it happens. Im just wondering if there is expected to be a signifigant improvement in any area of the current reality of life there for a contract to be voted in. Thanks again, Fred
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Don't have exact specifics of what's been proposed but obviously along the lines you indicated. I would say the two sides are miles apart; virtually no progress has been made in 2 years of negotiating. My expectation is rather than ultimately compromise and reach a deal management's goal is try & break the union as such I'm bracing for a long strike.
Hope I'm wrong (wouldn't be the first time)
Hope I'm wrong (wouldn't be the first time)
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I understand. I realize the risk in coming in this volatile situation. Can you give idea of what more senior guys are holding as far as days off as opposed to min contractually? is a guy 50% in base at min days off, or doing better? In other words are half the guys/gals getting 14,15,16 days off or is basically everyone at min for life? Secondly, is ashville a fairly stable base, or one that might come and go? thanks for the info, Fred
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I know it's hard when everybody keeps saying this but - no easy way to answer those questions 'cause there's so much flux. A whole bunch of bases, a lot of them really small where a couple folks go out on FMLA and all of a sudden everybody's working 19 days a month. Then you've got the season fluctuations where flying varies widely from month to month. As sort of a very rough guide I would say most times senior folks can hold 16 17 days off but as soon as I write that you'll see a dozen posts from senior guys calling bu!!$hit.
As for Asheville I'd say it's very tenuous; it's a brand-new and a very small base & Allegiant won't hesitate to pull the plug after one summer if the numbers aren't there. This is a company that closed a base in LAX for crying out loud, so nothing's safe except LAS SFB & maybe IWA & PIE.
As for Asheville I'd say it's very tenuous; it's a brand-new and a very small base & Allegiant won't hesitate to pull the plug after one summer if the numbers aren't there. This is a company that closed a base in LAX for crying out loud, so nothing's safe except LAS SFB & maybe IWA & PIE.
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