Allegiant Air
10-18-2015, 09:19 PM
#411
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 59
Home every night is a false statement! If you don't live in base as a mid or better seniority capt or FO; ie, if you live more than 100 miles from base; you need a local crash pad or room you rent. Why?, because you will start early, end late in your assigned base, not necessarily where you live. In reality you will be "home" 6-7 nights per month maximum, unless you live (within 100 miles) of your base. By the way, just remember that it's not Orlando, Tampa, or Phoenix; its Sanford (45 min from Orlando on a good day); St Petersburg (yep, 30 minutes from Tampa on a good day); and Punta Gorda ( uh, 45 minutes from anywhere). Remember, as a commuter, you rely on airline schedules into the major cities; not like you choose when to arrive at your base. Anyone commuting needs to be in base on average 12-18 hrs before sign in due to major airport/airline schedules. This is not an airline that you commute in on your trip day! Therefore, home every night is only for non-new hires! A lot of G4 pilots are "home" less than 10 nights per month (that is unless you call a crash pad or room rental home). Listen to this thread. A major contract issue is schedules, as opposed to pay. Single days off are killing this airline. If the contract will provide 3-4 day off in a row guarantee; the minimums to get to G4 will instantly double. Why?, a lot of guys will stay!
10-18-2015, 10:51 PM
#412
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2015
Position: on the bench
Posts: 157
From the Allegiant website, flight cancellations for Sunday Oct 18th, rescheduled to the following day.
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Allegiant Air
Travel Advisory
Sunday October 18, 2015
We thank you for flying and choosing us here at Allegiant, where "Travel is our Deal".
Flight 222 originally scheduled to depart Bellingham, WA to Las Vegas, NV on October 18, 2015 will now be operating as flight 5222 on October 19, 2015. The new scheduled time of departure out of Bellingham, WA is 1:30 PM, arriving in Las Vegas, NV at 4:03 PM.
Flight 510 originally scheduled to depart Las Vegas, NV to Bozeman, MT on October 18, 2015 will now be operating as flight 5510 on October 19, 2015. The new scheduled time of departure out of Las Vegas is 8:00AM and arriving in Bozeman at 10:56AM.
Flight 511 originally scheduled to depart Bozeman, MT to Las Vegas, NV on October 18, 2015 will now be operating as flight 5511 on October 19, 2015. The new scheduled time of departure out of Bozeman, MT is 11:36 AM, arriving in Las Vegas, NV at 12:41 PM.
Flight 533 originally scheduled to depart Hebron, KY to Las Vegas, NV on October 18, 2015 will now be operating as flight 5533 on October 19, 2015. The new scheduled time of departure out of Hebron, KY is 11:15 AM, arriving in Las Vegas, NV at 12:25 PM.
Flight 813 originally scheduled to depart Roanoke, VA to St. Petersburg, FL on October 18, 2015 will now be operating as flight 5813 on October 19, 2015. The new scheduled time of departure out of Roanoke, VA is 7:55 PM, arriving in St. Petersburg, FL at 9:49 PM.
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Allegiant Air
Travel Advisory
Sunday October 18, 2015
We thank you for flying and choosing us here at Allegiant, where "Travel is our Deal".
Flight 222 originally scheduled to depart Bellingham, WA to Las Vegas, NV on October 18, 2015 will now be operating as flight 5222 on October 19, 2015. The new scheduled time of departure out of Bellingham, WA is 1:30 PM, arriving in Las Vegas, NV at 4:03 PM.
Flight 510 originally scheduled to depart Las Vegas, NV to Bozeman, MT on October 18, 2015 will now be operating as flight 5510 on October 19, 2015. The new scheduled time of departure out of Las Vegas is 8:00AM and arriving in Bozeman at 10:56AM.
Flight 511 originally scheduled to depart Bozeman, MT to Las Vegas, NV on October 18, 2015 will now be operating as flight 5511 on October 19, 2015. The new scheduled time of departure out of Bozeman, MT is 11:36 AM, arriving in Las Vegas, NV at 12:41 PM.
Flight 533 originally scheduled to depart Hebron, KY to Las Vegas, NV on October 18, 2015 will now be operating as flight 5533 on October 19, 2015. The new scheduled time of departure out of Hebron, KY is 11:15 AM, arriving in Las Vegas, NV at 12:25 PM.
Flight 813 originally scheduled to depart Roanoke, VA to St. Petersburg, FL on October 18, 2015 will now be operating as flight 5813 on October 19, 2015. The new scheduled time of departure out of Roanoke, VA is 7:55 PM, arriving in St. Petersburg, FL at 9:49 PM.
10-18-2015, 10:53 PM
#413
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2008
Position: MD80 CA
Posts: 324
A cut is not likely the last 3 quarters have an average of 27% operating margin. If you use last years 3rd quarter numbers it would be 23.6% average for a one year look back which is above the 20% required to keep band 4. All quarters this year have been well above last year. 3rd last year was just 10.9% So would have to be well under that to be sent back to band 3
10-19-2015, 10:01 AM
#417
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Joined APC: Oct 2013
Position: FO
Posts: 525
I'll concede to hold the attitude when those concede to stop giving advice about things they don't know about. According to your advice I would be 3 months unemployed after leaving the military, and just looking at hours (that's all that has been posted to compare against) I am more qualified. Some mil guys are beating the offers off with a stick, others still have some more work to do to get to that point and Allegiant provides that compared to a regional. Telling someone to wait for a call is no different than telling someone to leave Allegiant and wait for a better offer. Stick to providing advice about company specifics and hold off on the rest. Truce?
I know plenty, 2200TT is very competitive for a mil guy and we both know it's not the same as 2200TT on the civilian side. When I made the original posting I did make some assumptions. One, that the OP would be smart enough to network and start applying before getting out of the military. Obviously, getting a call from SWA isn't easy, but he's definitely competitive and you also ignored that I mentioned Spirit as well. It's also not easy to get on but he's even more competitive for them I would think. Granted I don't know exactly what he/she has been flying in the military either, I'm sure IP experience would go a long way as well. But Allegiant should definitely be the back-up plan to either of those places, not the first choice.
You like to attack people that don't love Allegiant. You say we're all telling falsehoods, please point out where? Nothing I've posted has been fabricated. You said yourself you haven't been TDY'd? That means there is a whole 'nother side to this company you haven't seen. The TDY situation has improved slighty, sure, but it's still a BIG issue here. The fact remains there are guys that have spent 6 of 9 months (or more) involuntary out of base. I could go on and on about the many other issues but that horse has been beat already.
And yes, truce, I have no desire to fight. I just call it as I see it.
10-19-2015, 10:37 AM
#418
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2011
Position: Hoping for any position
Posts: 2,514
Again, this isn't an RJ thread so you can hold the attitude, were all on the same team.
I know plenty, 2200TT is very competitive for a mil guy and we both know it's not the same as 2200TT on the civilian side. When I made the original posting I did make some assumptions. One, that the OP would be smart enough to network and start applying before getting out of the military. Obviously, getting a call from SWA isn't easy, but he's definitely competitive and you also ignored that I mentioned Spirit as well. It's also not easy to get on but he's even more competitive for them I would think. Granted I don't know exactly what he/she has been flying in the military either, I'm sure IP experience would go a long way as well. But Allegiant should definitely be the back-up plan to either of those places, not the first choice.
You like to attack people that don't love Allegiant. You say we're all telling falsehoods, please point out where? Nothing I've posted has been fabricated. You said yourself you haven't been TDY'd? That means there is a whole 'nother side to this company you haven't seen. The TDY situation has improved slighty, sure, but it's still a BIG issue here. The fact remains there are guys that have spent 6 of 9 months (or more) involuntary out of base. I could go on and on about the many other issues but that horse has been beat already.
And yes, truce, I have no desire to fight. I just call it as I see it.
I know plenty, 2200TT is very competitive for a mil guy and we both know it's not the same as 2200TT on the civilian side. When I made the original posting I did make some assumptions. One, that the OP would be smart enough to network and start applying before getting out of the military. Obviously, getting a call from SWA isn't easy, but he's definitely competitive and you also ignored that I mentioned Spirit as well. It's also not easy to get on but he's even more competitive for them I would think. Granted I don't know exactly what he/she has been flying in the military either, I'm sure IP experience would go a long way as well. But Allegiant should definitely be the back-up plan to either of those places, not the first choice.
You like to attack people that don't love Allegiant. You say we're all telling falsehoods, please point out where? Nothing I've posted has been fabricated. You said yourself you haven't been TDY'd? That means there is a whole 'nother side to this company you haven't seen. The TDY situation has improved slighty, sure, but it's still a BIG issue here. The fact remains there are guys that have spent 6 of 9 months (or more) involuntary out of base. I could go on and on about the many other issues but that horse has been beat already.
And yes, truce, I have no desire to fight. I just call it as I see it.
I was mostly responding to the OP about the lure of home every night. That is a huge draw. But like you said, there are strings attached to it and it's not a guarantee.
I wouldn't say anyone has outright lied, but stretched the truth and leaving out details and facts. For instance the PIE incident. Lots of details left out about what exactly happened. Even I don't know the full truth but I know more than what has been published here. I don't love Allegiant, but so far it's better than what I had, but a long ways to go.
10-19-2015, 01:38 PM
#419
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Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Narrow/Left Wide/Right
Posts: 3,655
2200 hours mil time isn't even up to their published mins. You have to have a at least 3000 to sign up for their job fair. And I agree, almost every other LCC would be a smarter choice right now compared to Allegiant, if you can get a call. 3000TT/1000PIC appears to be an unpublished min for mil guys, especially heavy guys. Fighter types 2200 is very competitive at all carriers. I have less than slightly less than that but job fairs and internal recs have gone farther. With SW internals aren't even looked at until after the interview. That means you have to have competitive quals to get to that point.
I was mostly responding to the OP about the lure of home every night. That is a huge draw. But like you said, there are strings attached to it and it's not a guarantee.
I wouldn't say anyone has outright lied, but stretched the truth and leaving out details and facts. For instance the PIE incident. Lots of details left out about what exactly happened. Even I don't know the full truth but I know more than what has been published here. I don't love Allegiant, but so far it's better than what I had, but a long ways to go.
I was mostly responding to the OP about the lure of home every night. That is a huge draw. But like you said, there are strings attached to it and it's not a guarantee.
I wouldn't say anyone has outright lied, but stretched the truth and leaving out details and facts. For instance the PIE incident. Lots of details left out about what exactly happened. Even I don't know the full truth but I know more than what has been published here. I don't love Allegiant, but so far it's better than what I had, but a long ways to go.
10-19-2015, 01:44 PM
#420
Banned
Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Narrow/Left Wide/Right
Posts: 3,655
Really? Really? You can hold the attitude, your not impressing or intimidating anyone. Save that junk for the RJ threads.
SWA hires a lot of mil guys and his experience is good. Sure, no guarantees, but I'm suggesting he wait or try to make connections. I don't know as much about Spirit but I'd imagine he is competitive for them also. Depending on the specifics of his military experience I'd say his odds of getting a call (especially if he has an internal rec) to be very very good! A job fair will go a long way as well.
Good Luck to the original poster.
SWA hires a lot of mil guys and his experience is good. Sure, no guarantees, but I'm suggesting he wait or try to make connections. I don't know as much about Spirit but I'd imagine he is competitive for them also. Depending on the specifics of his military experience I'd say his odds of getting a call (especially if he has an internal rec) to be very very good! A job fair will go a long way as well.
Good Luck to the original poster.
If you've walked on a lot of backs to get ahead or are just considered a liability rather than an asset to a fellow pilots company, well you may find yourself on the outside looking in.
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