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Old 10-14-2015, 04:35 AM
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Other than money, what other priorities are high on the list for pilots in negotiations?
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Other than money, what other priorities are high on the list for pilots in negotiations?


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Old 10-14-2015, 08:21 AM
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I'm curious if someone may be noticing that the longer the wait is to sign a contract, the higher the bar will be raised, resulting in increased overall costs in the medium/long term. I'd bet the union would have settled for B6/NK rates 18 months ago.
The great part is that all the carriers are raising the bar for us since they are all in negotiations and going to get bumps in most areas as well. The longer the company waits the less likely a TA will be approved unless it's pretty damn good.
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Management is running out of bad news, and now they're trying to spin the “We’re not an airline”, distraction. When times are bad in aviation we get the look at your counterpart airlines; then we’re an airline. They play whatever song is expedient at the time. Yet their bonuses and rich union busting attorneys never suffer.
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Originally Posted by FirstClass
Other than money, what other priorities are high on the list for pilots in negotiations?
Retirement that isn't laughable, insurance that is usable and affordable, and work rules that will stop the fluid "company policies"


Not shooting for the moon here
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Old 10-15-2015, 06:26 AM
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The emails are coming fast and furious now. Starting to get the feeling of desperation from the company yet they are stalling. Every quarterly earnings report that comes out should help our cause and hopefully some of our "peers" get a TA released. If not, hopefully the NMB agrees and we get our 30 day cooling off.
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Laughable, Mav is trying to convince us we’re making so much progress on everything that doesn't count. Yet doesn't bother showing up to most of the meetings. This guy's credibility is zero.
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Do they think we are that stupid?
How about a little respect here management....
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"Over the last few months, the company has made numerous proposals to the union that include significantly higher wages, improved retirement plans, a union-sponsored health plan, and better scheduling rules for the pilots."

I went to the companies wage calculator, how can they say this with a straight face, my increase as a 3 year FO would only be 770 according to the company proposed pay scale. last month I heard the companies proposal to medical insurance was a huge premium increase for the family plan, and they were also reducing what they would pay for their share of the family plan premium.

I can't wait to see what the company thinks "better scheduling rules" are.
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Originally Posted by Squirrel4Hire
"Over the last few months, the company has made numerous proposals to the union that include significantly higher wages, improved retirement plans, a union-sponsored health plan, and better scheduling rules for the pilots."

I went to the companies wage calculator, how can they say this with a straight face, my increase as a 3 year FO would only be 770 according to the company proposed pay scale. last month I heard the companies proposal to medical insurance was a huge premium increase for the family plan, and they were also reducing what they would pay for their share of the family plan premium.

I can't wait to see what the company thinks "better scheduling rules" are.
So you will need all that increase in pay just to pay for the increase in premiums. I also wonder what the retirement will look like.
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