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Old 07-02-2016, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SkiVasquez
I can see that reading is a challenge for you, as well as spelling and basic grammar, but I'll give this one more try. You can't compare what you want here in your TA to what (insert airline here) is currently asking for in their negotiations. You can only compare yourself to what (insert airline here) currently has.

My assertion only serves as a caution to those who are making the argument that our TA will be at the bottom in a couple years based on what's being negotiated elsewhere. The mediator does not care what (insert airline here) is asking for or what they may have in 2017. I'm saying this so people who are thinking of voting no understand what we can and can't ask for.

I am not saying WHO we can and can't compare ourselves to, I'm talking about WHAT we can and can't compare ourselves to.
I agree with you. an A320 pay rate needs to be close to on par with any legacy A320. If its drastically lower, eventually LCCs will not be able to staff, If they want to keep pilots there and not have them jump ship to Legacies, then they will need to make the pay somewhat comparative.
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Old 07-02-2016, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by tom11011
I suspect no voters are more dissatisfied with the work rules and not the $$$.
I suspect I would be too, if we had any.
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Old 07-02-2016, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SkiVasquez
I can see that reading is a challenge for you, as well as spelling and basic grammar, but I'll give this one more try. You can't compare what you want here in your TA to what (insert airline here) is currently asking for in their negotiations. You can only compare yourself to what (insert airline here) currently has.

My assertion only serves as a caution to those who are making the argument that our TA will be at the bottom in a couple years based on what's being negotiated elsewhere. The mediator does not care what (insert airline here) is asking for or what they may have in 2017. I'm saying this so people who are thinking of voting no understand what we can and can't ask for.

I am not saying WHO we can and can't compare ourselves to, I'm talking about WHAT we can and can't compare ourselves to.
Was it said that the mediator was going along with the company in that our peer airlines were only Spirit and Frontier or something along those lines? It's not just what the company says, it is also what is going on with the mediator.
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Old 07-02-2016, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SilkBra
Was it said that the mediator was going along with the company in that our peer airlines were only Spirit and Frontier or something along those lines? It's not just what the company says, it is also what is going on with the mediator.
I can't answer this, as I'm not on the NC or EXCO. But judging by the TA we received, I'm assuming the mediator and NMB were comparing us to our fellow ULCCs and LCCs.

Yes, I was disappointed when I saw the work rules. You used to be able to commute with this airline. It just seems like we are negotiating for all of the stuff that the company has taken away in the last five years. But I also know that our NC and EXCO wouldn't give us a TA unless they thought it was the best deal they could offer us to vote on.

In the mean time, I'm still looking for other jobs. This company will not give us an amazing contract until they absolutely have to, and from the looks of their offer, they havent reached that critical point.
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Old 07-02-2016, 01:02 PM
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Hey guys current regional CA here. I have a 4yr degree, 3 types and about 5,500hrs TT. Would Allegiant be a good choice? I heard about this TA but don't really know much about starting pay rates, etc. I'm willing to move, but I would like some clarity on this "infinite" TDY. Thanks!
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Old 07-02-2016, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by EjetTaxi
Hey guys current regional CA here. I have a 4yr degree, 3 types and about 5,500hrs TT. Would Allegiant be a good choice? I heard about this TA but don't really know much about starting pay rates, etc. I'm willing to move, but I would like some clarity on this "infinite" TDY. Thanks!
Are you willing to move to FL?
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Old 07-02-2016, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Machaca
Are you willing to move to FL?
Sure I like warm weather.
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Old 07-02-2016, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by EjetTaxi
Hey guys current regional CA here. I have a 4yr degree, 3 types and about 5,500hrs TT. Would Allegiant be a good choice? I heard about this TA but don't really know much about starting pay rates, etc. I'm willing to move, but I would like some clarity on this "infinite" TDY. Thanks!
Overview of TA:

https://www.apa1224.org/public/Algt/ContractOverview.pdf



Here is a copy of the actual TA:

https://www.apa1224.org/public/Algt/IBT-AllegiantTentativeAgreement_063016.pdf
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Old 07-02-2016, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by EjetTaxi
Sure I like warm weather.
VBD is our variable base, it's what they award when there's no other vacancies currently available to new hires and is the most junior 'base.' It's not a bad deal if you are flexible and like to see new places, it is terrible if you have a family. Most of the new hires have been able to get what they want or close to it though while they are still in training. We don't typically do involuntary TDY's anymore unless you're on the Airbus in SFB. If you do get bases in FL however, be prepared to be on reserve not just in your base but for every FL base and AVL.
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Old 07-02-2016, 02:28 PM
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