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Old 06-21-2016, 07:54 PM
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It's not gonna be a $5 raise, more like $25 raise plus Captain top out rates over $205. Plus some work rule improvements, overall I think it will be an acceptable first contract.
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Old 06-21-2016, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Machaca
Oh, please...this is the same management team (with a few notable changes) that expressly lied about maintenance spending...barely .1% increase not even factored in with the new jets that showed up. They are hoping that a TA will help stem the tide with all of the operational and mx failures that the company is suffering through by its own lack of concern for the health of the system. Look at the share price, that's the real pressure for the board to push for something. While a good contract will be a boon for the pilot group, don't think for a minute that the training department is suddenly going to start actually training our new hires properly (4 oral failures in just the last class) instead of relying on a crappy computer program that Maury hopes to sell elsewhere. Don't think that EG is suddenly going to make decisions to shore up the operation...costs money to train, fly and be safe. Watch the stock price, it's the best bellwether for what happens from the front office.
Agree. Lucky for us the stock price took a dive and stayed there. If it hadn't, the management team (old or new), would not have been successful getting this done.
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Old 06-21-2016, 09:24 PM
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Agree. Lucky for us the stock price took a dive and stayed there. If it hadn't, the management team (old or new), would not have been successful getting this done.
It will be interesting to see what the TA does to the stock price over the next couple of weeks. Knowing who has been working on our side for this allows me to be hopeful, none of those guys would countenance putting out a crappy TA to the pilot group. Huge kudos to them for sticking with it.
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Old 06-21-2016, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by skyrider1015
It's not gonna be a $5 raise, more like $25 raise plus Captain top out rates over $205. Plus some work rule improvements, overall I think it will be an acceptable first contract.
As a spirit pilot, let me say we had an offer higher than that slid across the table and the NC slid it right back. They even sent it in an email to the group because it was so insulting.

You will live under whatever this contract is for 10+ years I would bet. Don't vote on it as a "first contract". The market is in your favor on both pilot supply and pay. United Airbus pilots make $245 today and $258 in two years with a 16% DC. They will snap up to delta if delta beats them (incredible language to get). They and AA open again in 2019.

$205 is gonna look pretty crappy when you see $300 at the legacies in 2020 not to mention all the other contract language.
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Old 06-22-2016, 04:54 AM
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Anybody have any tips on getting my foot in the door to Allegiant?
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Old 06-22-2016, 05:18 AM
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Anybody have any tips on getting my foot in the door to Allegiant?
Go to a job fair.
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Old 06-22-2016, 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Qwerty320
Anybody have any tips on getting my foot in the door to Allegiant?
Don't do it.
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Old 06-22-2016, 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
As a spirit pilot, let me say we had an offer higher than that slid across the table and the NC slid it right back. They even sent it in an email to the group because it was so insulting.

You will live under whatever this contract is for 10+ years I would bet. Don't vote on it as a "first contract". The market is in your favor on both pilot supply and pay. United Airbus pilots make $245 today and $258 in two years with a 16% DC. They will snap up to delta if delta beats them (incredible language to get). They and AA open again in 2019.

$205 is gonna look pretty crappy when you see $300 at the legacies in 2020 not to mention all the other contract language.
Pretty sure the guys at the table would not have signed off on $205....they've said time and again they're not going to sign a T/A that will get rejected. Top C/A of $205 would be overwhelmimgly voted down imo.
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Old 06-22-2016, 06:26 AM
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How long does it take to send a TA to the pilot group?
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Old 06-22-2016, 07:01 AM
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How long does it take to send a TA to the pilot group?
I think it'll be out on Monday.
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