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Old 06-02-2016, 10:06 AM
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You'd think SOMEONE in HQ would figure out that its only the PILOTS who are keeping this place from being the next Valujet.
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Old 06-02-2016, 11:04 AM
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You'd think SOMEONE in HQ would figure out that its only the PILOTS who are keeping this place from being the next Valujet.
Amen to that. Tough position to be in.
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Old 06-02-2016, 11:24 AM
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http://www.bizjournals.com/tampabay/news/2016/06/02/two-allegiant-flights-in-two-days-have-emergency.html?ana=yahoo

Two emergencies in two days. Same aircraft, same airport. Disgraceful.

"Our mechanics and operations team are currently conducting a thorough review and report of the incidents, but we are not able to confirm cause of either at this time," the airline said in a statement.

No surprise there.

Realize you are seeing the tip of the iceberg as the St. Petersburg/Tampa Bay times are highly sensitized to Allegiant's chronic malfeasance. A lot of this is happening elsewhere but going unreported.

The fact we are in the middle of a major FAA inspection while all this is happening will make it all the more difficult for the FAA bureaucrats to issue anything less than severe penalties and restrictions. But like ValuJet, the FAA will continue to muddle around, looking for paperwork errors and the like. Worst case, more scrutiny for the pilots in the form of increased oversight.

Kudos to the crew from their fellow pilots. Don't expect such appreciation from management as they are probably calling this another job action. Even if they did, there isn't enough room on the G4 site with all the cupcake and cutest pet contests.

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Old 06-02-2016, 01:19 PM
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More scrutiny of the pilots is a total waste of time. Allegiant pilots prove on an almost daily basis that they have the knowledge and skills to bring various emergency aircraft safely home.

The FAA should be investigating management, period. I'm sure no one in maintenance is happy about cutting corners. Where do you think the orders and/or lack of funding comes from?
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Old 06-02-2016, 08:59 PM
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The FAA should be investigating management, period. I'm sure no one in maintenance is happy about cutting corners. Where do you think the orders and/or lack of funding comes from?
Air Carriers in distress bring more scrutiny, but if people are unwilling to come forward, the FAA can't do a lot about it. They don't have the power to just come in and shut the place down unless there's good hard evidence of violations.
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Old 06-03-2016, 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes
Air Carriers in distress bring more scrutiny, but if people are unwilling to come forward, the FAA can't do a lot about it. They don't have the power to just come in and shut the place down unless there's good hard evidence of violations.
Precisely which one of our sycophantic management types is supposed to risk their job and paycheck for "safety"? They know that they'll be crushed, not just fired but probably taken to court.
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Old 06-03-2016, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes
Air Carriers in distress bring more scrutiny, but if people are unwilling to come forward, the FAA can't do a lot about it. They don't have the power to just come in and shut the place down unless there's good hard evidence of violations.
The Teamster Aviation Mechanics Coalition (TAMC) has come forward in very public fashion, filing detailed reports of maintenance issues that involved everything from flight control mis-rigs to constant and routine engine failures (all fleets), smoke filled cabins, evacuations, etc.

http://skift.com/wp-content/uploads/...TAMCReport.pdf

Mechanics have also stepped up in like fashion
Former Allegiant Air mechanic: This airline is dangerous | Tampa Bay Times

In the past, the FAAs response was to step up scrutiny on the pilots through increased oversight and JS observations. To their credit, the FAA has accelerated the standard 5-year interval, probably due to increased scrutiny. The inspection just concluded and the results are being documented. Like other gov't bureaucratic entities they will likely issue the findings, make some recommendations. Worst case some fines or enforcement action, but no shutdown. All very similar to the AirTran history, the FAA warned like a blowhard parent, but in the end it took a catastrophe for the FAA to take serious action.

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Old 06-03-2016, 10:27 AM
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Holy cow, Allegiant just had a third hydraulic problem with the same airplane that declared emergencies the past two days. PIE to HTS, they called maintenance in flight and reported low hydraulic quantity. I don't think he declared an emergency. How have they not grounded that airplane?
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Old 06-03-2016, 10:43 AM
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Holy cow, Allegiant just had a third hydraulic problem with the same airplane that declared emergencies the past two days. PIE to HTS, they called maintenance in flight and reported low hydraulic quantity. I don't think he declared an emergency. How have they not grounded that airplane?
Maybe because it's normal to have a lower qty on the green system in flight? Sounds like folks are getting jumpy and not using system knowledge.
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Old 06-03-2016, 10:43 AM
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Wow, at least they're becoming more selective. It seems like a lot of arrogant, incapable, DB's have come on property as of late.

BMcE got hired again?

I guess he was renewing his vows to Maury.
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