Allegiant Air
05-12-2016, 08:38 PM
#2652
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Posts: 2,137
As far as pay, are the pilots demanding Legacy pay or pay inline with Jetblue? or maybe just pay inline with spirit and frontier?
I'm curious what will make the group happy. I figure there is a pecking order in the industry and am curious where you see yourselves.
05-13-2016, 04:01 AM
#2653
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Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Da Bus
Posts: 481
I think you should look at current pay scales on here and ask again. We are already paid more than both sprit and frontier. Work rules are the major contention. The company wants to stick with single day off as an option and if they want that, for me, it will cost United rates. Retirement is actually my number 1 issue. There needs to be some direct contribution along with a match of 1:1 up to about 10%.
I'm willing to bet that when we finally get a contract, probably in 2 to 3 years, that it will be highly disappointing. I've given up on Allegiant management, MX and the hopes and willingness of our pilot group to secure the kind of compensation we deserve. I no longer have any hopes of making Allegiant a career airline.
05-13-2016, 04:12 AM
#2654
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Joined APC: Jan 2016
Posts: 212
I think you should look at current pay scales on here and ask again. We are already paid more than both sprit and frontier. Work rules are the major contention. The company wants to stick with single day off as an option and if they want that, for me, it will cost United rates. Retirement is actually my number 1 issue. There needs to be some direct contribution along with a match of 1:1 up to about 10%.
Yes we both suck but Spirit absolutely pays higher
05-13-2016, 04:57 AM
#2656
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 390
Last raise we got was in '09 and everyone was totally stoked! until they saw their w-2s. Hours slashed through mission mode (small print) and short, worthless trips.
MGT Didn't want to discuss work rules. Never did, still don't ("clogs the arteries"). MGT knows work rules = $$.
All this talk of wanting a deal and progress. Next week will be revealing.
05-13-2016, 04:58 AM
#2657
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Posts: 212
MGT knows it's about the bottom line. It's been their MO since the beginning: Impress the impressionable with big pay rates then short them with the bottom line. Worked in the past, heh, why not? (We're different).
Last raise we got was in '09 and everyone was totally stoked! until they saw their w-2s. Hours slashed through mission mode (small print) and short, worthless trips.
MGT Didn't want to discuss work rules. Never did, still don't ("clogs the arteries"). MGT knows work rules = $$.
All this talk of wanting a deal and progress. Next week will be revealing.
Last raise we got was in '09 and everyone was totally stoked! until they saw their w-2s. Hours slashed through mission mode (small print) and short, worthless trips.
MGT Didn't want to discuss work rules. Never did, still don't ("clogs the arteries"). MGT knows work rules = $$.
All this talk of wanting a deal and progress. Next week will be revealing.
Exactly, work rules are far more important to QOL and the size of your paycheck than just an hourly rate
05-13-2016, 08:13 AM
#2658
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
Position: A-320
Posts: 680
I'm curious, what do Allegiant pilots expect out of their first contract other than "a fair contract that recognizes the pilots contributions...... yada yada and all that other BS".
As far as pay, are the pilots demanding Legacy pay or pay inline with Jetblue? or maybe just pay inline with spirit and frontier?
I'm curious what will make the group happy. I figure there is a pecking order in the industry and am curious where you see yourselves.
As far as pay, are the pilots demanding Legacy pay or pay inline with Jetblue? or maybe just pay inline with spirit and frontier?
I'm curious what will make the group happy. I figure there is a pecking order in the industry and am curious where you see yourselves.
05-13-2016, 10:07 AM
#2659
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2016
Position: jets
Posts: 220
Let's not negotiate in public, I don't think most would settle for alaska's contract at this point anyhow. We've put up with too much and the company is too profitable.
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