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04-24-2016, 09:33 PM

#2431

PilotJim

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Originally Posted by labbats

Uniform allowance annually.

Parking in domicile paid. Commuter parking unpaid.

Read up on the contract as much as you can. Those are much more minor items than the $80/day training pay or $20/hr deadhead pay or ... or ... or.

Where can I find the contract? I thought you guys operated under some random work rules based on past precedent. I'd love to take a look at any document that spells things out.

04-25-2016, 02:51 AM

#2432

fishforfun

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PilotJim

Where can I find the contract? I thought you guys operated under some random work rules based on past precedent. I'd love to take a look at any document that spells things out.

You are correct. Just work rules that are not really enforced.

04-25-2016, 08:15 AM

#2433

tyler durden

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Come on over and get some good 'real world' hands-on experience dealing with real life emergencies! Great training.

Yes, Allegiant another in flight engine shutdown today (Has it been 2 weeks already?)

Right in the middle of a major FAA inspection. Ouch. Must be approaching 100 failures by now.

Nothing to see here folks, collect your ticket vouchers at the unstaffed ticket counter. Thanks for flying Allegiant.

04-25-2016, 02:41 PM

#2434

Hovernut

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PilotJim

Does Allegiant offer any kind of parking reimbursement or uniform allowance currently? Since there is no contract, it's really hard to tell what I might be getting myself into exactly.

Parking reimbursement only if you're VBD, otherwise Domicile-only.

04-25-2016, 02:42 PM

#2435

Hovernut

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Originally Posted by smoothatFL410

Someone have a link or a PDF for the contract? What is this about $80/day training pay? Taking 3 months or more to complete checkrides plus a month off before IOE, what's that like?

Training pay used to be $2k/mo. Now, I believe it's 70hrs guarantee flight pay.

04-25-2016, 03:24 PM

#2436

PilotJim

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hovernut

Parking reimbursement only if you're VBD, otherwise Domicile-only.

Ouch. I plan to move to domicile as soon as I get awarded what I want. In the meantime, that's gonna be rough.

04-25-2016, 03:52 PM

#2437

newhire1234

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So I just applied for the meet in greet in Chicago. Do you have to have a response before attending?

04-25-2016, 04:54 PM

#2438

RadarColor

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Originally Posted by rokgpsman

Allegiant management has stated they don't mind the high turnover in pilots, it actually works in the company's favor to limit salary expenses. Due to the large number of pilot applicants from regional airlines and elsewhere they have been able to easily replace pilots in the past. Think about it - this scheme reduces the cost to the company for pilot salaries. After a few years of employment many pilots move on and are replaced by new pilots that accept the job at a lower salary than the pilot they replaced. Allegiant has never tried to be a career job for a pilot, they don't want a large number of 15-20 year pilots that would earn much more than the initial salary they accepted. If you have a never-ending supply of new pilots that will work for a lower salary why would you want to keep any of them around for years and have to pay them a higher salary? (other than experience, safety, professionalism, tutoring younger pilots, etc - all of which means very little to Allegiant upper management)

So true and well said. Remember Morey came from West Air in the 80s, long before Value Jet and was used to pilot turnover. He was anti-union back then as well.

04-25-2016, 08:04 PM

#2439

full of luv

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PilotJim

Ouch. I plan to move to domicile as soon as I get awarded what I want. In the meantime, that's gonna be rough.

After reading this thread, that's the part of working for ALG that you find "rough"?

04-25-2016, 08:44 PM

#2440

Stok1

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fishforfun

Sounds like JB stated 50 more hires for this year. I'm sure that will go up based on attrition unless that includes our 15% FO attrition.

This number makes no sense. JB has stated that FO attrition is running 15 percent for last year. Hiring 50 more won't keep up with attrition and no growth. That would not include the many captains who are actively pursuing the Legacies. I’m hearing a lot of LAS and some IWA captains and FOs interviewing at SWA. This should be a banner year just for the captains. Remaining TWA/American furloughs which by now have all been contacted by AMR as to their intent to accept recall or decline. My guess would be the remaining TWA furloughs will be given class dates no later than this fall, at least 90 percent of them will return.

No surprise Allegiant management not planning for this.